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Reef Substrate?
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Local Petco has this stuff pretty cheap. I'm setting up a refugium on my 5.5g nano and I need cheap sand. The only thing that scares me, is I don't know what kind of sand it is. Description says "all natural" desert QUARTZ sand. OR: They have 10lb bags of DRY aragonite sand for the low-low price of $35. Any opinions? Thanks
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IMO the substrate is just as important as the rock you put into your system. It releases minerals and nutrients beneficial to a tank and acts as a filter. I will never go with anything but aragonite. I paid $46 per 40lb bag for my CaribSea aragonite. Ouch $35 for 10lb bag!?!?Current Aquarium(s) Description: 72 bow front Experience in Saltwater & Reef Aquarium Hobby: 1 year Other Intrests: Fish, Cars, Computers, Camping Last edited by NewbReefer; May 2nd, 2008 at 01:52 AM. |
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Yeah! $35 for 10 lbs of DRY aragonite sand.
I can get 30 lbs from 2 Docs and have it delivered to my front door for about $3 less than that. Wish I'd remembered to order it last week. ![]()
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RC unless you really love algae and diatoms DO NOT USE the repti-sand quartz is 100% silica which we all know isnt a good thing for a reef.
The orange home improvement store(FISHFAN HAHA) sells a play sand that is reef safe Ill look for what it is. Calcite based. Current Aquarium(s) Description: 180gal Mixed Reef Experience in Saltwater & Reef Aquarium Hobby: Newbie to Salt, 2 years planted, Freshwater Forever and a Day! Other Intrests: hunting outdoorsy things, cars motorcycles anything that goes fast drag cars |
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Re: Reef Substrate?
Its Pavestone High Dessert Play Sand--99% Calcite
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1331876 Current Aquarium(s) Description: 180gal Mixed Reef Experience in Saltwater & Reef Aquarium Hobby: Newbie to Salt, 2 years planted, Freshwater Forever and a Day! Other Intrests: hunting outdoorsy things, cars motorcycles anything that goes fast drag cars Last edited by RyanG; May 2nd, 2008 at 03:05 AM. |
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I've heard of people using that Calcite based sand. If you decide to got that direction keep us updated on how it does.
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Ryan is right, if you use quartz-based sand you won't even be able to see the sand through all the diatoms.
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I say go ahead and play it safe.Order the aragonite sand from the two doctor's website.
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The high desert sand is sand from the Great Salt Lake. There are articles on the net where it has been tested by Riddle and the likes back when New Castle play sand was widely available. The Salt lake sand was pretty high in Aragonite and Calcite, with higher levels of phosphate than New Castle play sand. Also there was a little silica, but not alarming levels. New Castle play sand is no longer available. It came form a single permit holding company in Bermuda, which now sells it as aragonite and only sells it to the distributers who sell it as reef substrates. Unless you have sand digging gobies and wrasses the Salt Lake sand is fine if it is available cheap. However, the silica sand irritates the gills of sand digging gobies and wrasses. Under a microscope silica sand looks just like small shards of glass. Aragonite will not dissolve in shallow sand beds because the beds at a shallow level have the same pH as the reef tanks water. Therfore, without a deep sand bed there is no real reason to use aragonite sands, as it does nothing to supply trace elements or calcium when it does not dissolve. It requires an oxygen free environment in a reef tank to have a low enough pH for aragonite to dissolve. Therefore the only advantage to having aragonite with a shallow sand bed is that it can be purchased in fine grain sizes that do not trap detritus like coarse crushed coral. Calcite (crushed coral, will not ever dissolve in a reef tank no matter whether their is a deep sand bed or not as it requires an even lower pH than aragonite to dissolve. Sorry if I burst the contentment bubbles of once happy aragonite purchasers.
Current Aquarium(s) Description: 120g SPS Mother Colony Tank, 40 g sump, back wall overflows, 2 closed loop circulation circuits 59X Experience in Saltwater & Reef Aquarium Hobby: 35 years in marine aquarium trade and managing LFS's, 10 years with coral. Other Intrests: Coral Propagation, Civil and Environmental Engineering, Cabinetry, and Reef Systems Development Last edited by fatman; May 2nd, 2008 at 12:47 PM. |
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