RS Berlin Classic vs. AquaC Urchin skimmer?

I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got the
reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....

I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't have
the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.

I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the Urchin
(75g).

My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:

*Berlin: Cheap- (good)
higher rated capacity (good)
Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
Somewhat larger footprint (bad)


*Urchin: More expensive (bad)
Pushing rated capacity (bad)
Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
Excellent/good reviews (good)
small footprint (good)

Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns (or
any others)?

TIA.

72g AGA Bow/stand
6g sump w/QuietOne return
Aiptasia
36# LR
4x96w DIY PC
Aiptasia
Halimeda

sense you dont have room in the sump for the urchin pro, how about the
remora pro w/ mag 3 HOB of your tank?


kc


"Chimera" <> wrote in message
news: m...
> I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
> The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got the
> reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
> Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....
>
> I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't have
> the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.
>
> I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
> This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the Urchin
> (75g).
>
> My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:
>
> *Berlin: Cheap- (good)
> higher rated capacity (good)
> Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
> Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
> Somewhat larger footprint (bad)
>
>
> *Urchin: More expensive (bad)
> Pushing rated capacity (bad)
> Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
> Excellent/good reviews (good)
> small footprint (good)
>
> Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns (or
> any others)?
>
> TIA.
>
> 72g AGA Bow/stand
> 6g sump w/QuietOne return
> Aiptasia
> 36# LR
> 4x96w DIY PC
> Aiptasia
> Halimeda

"Dragon Slayer" <koi_man(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bpiudu$7emp$>...
> sense you dont have room in the sump for the urchin pro, how about the
> remora pro w/ mag 3 HOB of your tank?
>
>
> kc
>
>
> "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> news: m...
> > I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
> > The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got the
> > reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
> > Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....
> >
> > I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't have
> > the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.
> >
> > I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
> > This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the Urchin
> > (75g).
> >
> > My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:
> >
> > *Berlin: Cheap- (good)
> > higher rated capacity (good)
> > Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
> > Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
> > Somewhat larger footprint (bad)
> >
> >
> > *Urchin: More expensive (bad)
> > Pushing rated capacity (bad)
> > Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
> > Excellent/good reviews (good)
> > small footprint (good)
> >
> > Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns (or
> > any others)?
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > 72g AGA Bow/stand
> > 6g sump w/QuietOne return
> > Aiptasia
> > 36# LR
> > 4x96w DIY PC
> > Aiptasia
> > Halimeda




Go with the remora, its spray injection is much more efficient than
the berlin that has a sized veturi for air injection, (dwell time)
this will yield more organic matter removal than the venturi type,
which spells higher water quality for your animals ....

Dc ..

How ugly is tht to look at ?
A mag3 in the tank and a smelly/noisy skimmer to look at?

I'd rather use the sump if possible. That way I am not staying awake
at night worrying about a leak/overflow.

Thanks.

"Dragon Slayer" <koi_man(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<bpiudu$7emp$>...
> sense you dont have room in the sump for the urchin pro, how about the
> remora pro w/ mag 3 HOB of your tank?
>
>
> kc
>
>
> "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> news: m...
> > I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
> > The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got the
> > reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
> > Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....
> >
> > I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't have
> > the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.
> >
> > I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
> > This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the Urchin
> > (75g).
> >
> > My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:
> >
> > *Berlin: Cheap- (good)
> > higher rated capacity (good)
> > Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
> > Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
> > Somewhat larger footprint (bad)
> >
> >
> > *Urchin: More expensive (bad)
> > Pushing rated capacity (bad)
> > Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
> > Excellent/good reviews (good)
> > small footprint (good)
> >
> > Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns (or
> > any others)?
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > 72g AGA Bow/stand
> > 6g sump w/QuietOne return
> > Aiptasia
> > 36# LR
> > 4x96w DIY PC
> > Aiptasia
> > Halimeda

agreed that the HOB are unsightly, but if you don't have a sump it's about
your only choice. and the Pro versions with the Mag 3 in tank do hog up a
good bit of space in the tank and create an eye sore.

kc



"Chimera" <> wrote in message
news: m...
> How ugly is tht to look at ?
> A mag3 in the tank and a smelly/noisy skimmer to look at?
>
> I'd rather use the sump if possible. That way I am not staying awake
> at night worrying about a leak/overflow.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Dragon Slayer" <koi_man(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<bpiudu$7emp$>...
> > sense you dont have room in the sump for the urchin pro, how about the
> > remora pro w/ mag 3 HOB of your tank?
> >
> >
> > kc
> >
> >
> > "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> > news: m...
> > > I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
> > > The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got the
> > > reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
> > > Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....
> > >
> > > I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't have
> > > the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.
> > >
> > > I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
> > > This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the Urchin
> > > (75g).
> > >
> > > My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:
> > >
> > > *Berlin: Cheap- (good)
> > > higher rated capacity (good)
> > > Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
> > > Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
> > > Somewhat larger footprint (bad)
> > >
> > >
> > > *Urchin: More expensive (bad)
> > > Pushing rated capacity (bad)
> > > Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
> > > Excellent/good reviews (good)
> > > small footprint (good)
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns (or
> > > any others)?
> > >
> > > TIA.
> > >
> > > 72g AGA Bow/stand
> > > 6g sump w/QuietOne return
> > > Aiptasia
> > > 36# LR
> > > 4x96w DIY PC
> > > Aiptasia
> > > Halimeda

You should see the Remora Pro w/ Mag 5 in my son's 29g. <grin>

Marc


Dragon Slayer wrote:

> agreed that the HOB are unsightly, but if you don't have a sump it's about
> your only choice. and the Pro versions with the Mag 3 in tank do hog up a
> good bit of space in the tank and create an eye sore.
>
> kc
>
> "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> news: m...
> > How ugly is tht to look at ?
> > A mag3 in the tank and a smelly/noisy skimmer to look at?
> >
> > I'd rather use the sump if possible. That way I am not staying awake
> > at night worrying about a leak/overflow.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > "Dragon Slayer" <koi_man(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<bpiudu$7emp$>...
> > > sense you dont have room in the sump for the urchin pro, how about the
> > > remora pro w/ mag 3 HOB of your tank?
> > >
> > >
> > > kc
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> > > news: m...
> > > > I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
> > > > The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got the
> > > > reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
> > > > Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....
> > > >
> > > > I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't have
> > > > the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.
> > > >
> > > > I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
> > > > This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the Urchin
> > > > (75g).
> > > >
> > > > My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:
> > > >
> > > > *Berlin: Cheap- (good)
> > > > higher rated capacity (good)
> > > > Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
> > > > Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
> > > > Somewhat larger footprint (bad)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Urchin: More expensive (bad)
> > > > Pushing rated capacity (bad)
> > > > Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
> > > > Excellent/good reviews (good)
> > > > small footprint (good)
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns (or
> > > > any others)?
> > > >
> > > > TIA.
> > > >
> > > > 72g AGA Bow/stand
> > > > 6g sump w/QuietOne return
> > > > Aiptasia
> > > > 36# LR
> > > > 4x96w DIY PC
> > > > Aiptasia
> > > > Halimeda

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dang Marc, I guess I been slacking in the NG lately, last I recollected your
son only had the 10g with the clowns and shrooms. glad to see dad is
taking care of his growing needs

BTW the zoa's are doing great.

kc

"Marc Levenson" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You should see the Remora Pro w/ Mag 5 in my son's 29g. <grin>
>
> Marc
>
>
> Dragon Slayer wrote:
>
> > agreed that the HOB are unsightly, but if you don't have a sump it's
about
> > your only choice. and the Pro versions with the Mag 3 in tank do hog up
a
> > good bit of space in the tank and create an eye sore.
> >
> > kc
> >
> > "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> > news: m...
> > > How ugly is tht to look at ?
> > > A mag3 in the tank and a smelly/noisy skimmer to look at?
> > >
> > > I'd rather use the sump if possible. That way I am not staying awake
> > > at night worrying about a leak/overflow.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > "Dragon Slayer" <koi_man(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:<bpiudu$7emp$>...
> > > > sense you dont have room in the sump for the urchin pro, how about
the
> > > > remora pro w/ mag 3 HOB of your tank?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > kc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> > > > news: m...
> > > > > I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
> > > > > The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got
the
> > > > > reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
> > > > > Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't
have
> > > > > the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
> > > > > This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the
Urchin
> > > > > (75g).
> > > > >
> > > > > My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:
> > > > >
> > > > > *Berlin: Cheap- (good)
> > > > > higher rated capacity (good)
> > > > > Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
> > > > > Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
> > > > > Somewhat larger footprint (bad)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > *Urchin: More expensive (bad)
> > > > > Pushing rated capacity (bad)
> > > > > Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
> > > > > Excellent/good reviews (good)
> > > > > small footprint (good)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns
(or
> > > > > any others)?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA.
> > > > >
> > > > > 72g AGA Bow/stand
> > > > > 6g sump w/QuietOne return
> > > > > Aiptasia
> > > > > 36# LR
> > > > > 4x96w DIY PC
> > > > > Aiptasia
> > > > > Halimeda
>
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>
>

Yep, I swapped my old 29 for a brand new one with black silicone a few weeks
ago. Cleaned my old tank up as best possible, reversed it so the back wall is
now the front (unscratched) and set it up in my son's room to replace the 10g.

In case you've not visited my site recently, I added Personal Logs which goes
into these details during the month of November.

I'm really glad the zoos are doing well, I was a little worried about them
arriving in good shape.

Marc


Dragon Slayer wrote:

> dang Marc, I guess I been slacking in the NG lately, last I recollected your
> son only had the 10g with the clowns and shrooms. glad to see dad is
> taking care of his growing needs
>
> BTW the zoa's are doing great.
>
> kc
>
> "Marc Levenson" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > You should see the Remora Pro w/ Mag 5 in my son's 29g. <grin>
> >
> > Marc
> >
> >
> > Dragon Slayer wrote:
> >
> > > agreed that the HOB are unsightly, but if you don't have a sump it's
> about
> > > your only choice. and the Pro versions with the Mag 3 in tank do hog up
> a
> > > good bit of space in the tank and create an eye sore.
> > >
> > > kc
> > >
> > > "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> > > news: m...
> > > > How ugly is tht to look at ?
> > > > A mag3 in the tank and a smelly/noisy skimmer to look at?
> > > >
> > > > I'd rather use the sump if possible. That way I am not staying awake
> > > > at night worrying about a leak/overflow.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > "Dragon Slayer" <koi_man(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:<bpiudu$7emp$>...
> > > > > sense you dont have room in the sump for the urchin pro, how about
> the
> > > > > remora pro w/ mag 3 HOB of your tank?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > kc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chimera" <> wrote in message
> > > > > news: m...
> > > > > > I have a 72g bow with a small (~6g) sump.
> > > > > > The tank has been neglected for the past year- never really got
> the
> > > > > > reef going past a couple of mushrooms and polyps.
> > > > > > Looking to revitalize it now as the d i v o r c e finalizes....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been thinking about buying an Urchin skimmer (not Pro- don't
> have
> > > > > > the cabinet clearance) to replace my CPR counter current model.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been offered a used Berlin Classic skimmer for $50 (no pump).
> > > > > > This skimmer has a much higher capacity rating (250g) vs the
> Urchin
> > > > > > (75g).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My thinking (in no particular order) is like so:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Berlin: Cheap- (good)
> > > > > > higher rated capacity (good)
> > > > > > Need a Mag7 in my sump (bad: noise/power/heat)
> > > > > > Some bad/mediocre reviews (bad)
> > > > > > Somewhat larger footprint (bad)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Urchin: More expensive (bad)
> > > > > > Pushing rated capacity (bad)
> > > > > > Uses small MaxiJet1200 (good)
> > > > > > Excellent/good reviews (good)
> > > > > > small footprint (good)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for me given the above concerns
> (or
> > > > > > any others)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 72g AGA Bow/stand
> > > > > > 6g sump w/QuietOne return
> > > > > > Aiptasia
> > > > > > 36# LR
> > > > > > 4x96w DIY PC
> > > > > > Aiptasia
> > > > > > Halimeda
> >
> > --
> > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
> > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
> > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
> >
> >

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