quarantine tank

is a 10g enough? or is going to pose problems because it's small and
unstable?
I got a sailfin tang that's developing ich, so I dipped it in my roommate's
f/w tank for 10s, it seems to have slowed it down, but I need to medicate
it..should I just have a sick tank with some copper in it? Will that be
enough?

I have a 10g set up that I was going to make into a f/w plant tank, but i'll
change it to a s/w sick tank if it'd be benificial to have...it's got an
aquaclear mini filter, a heater, and an incandescent canopy...shouldn't have
lights if I'm trying to heal them i guess...I would just medicate my display
tank but I've got live rock in it..can't afford to kill it.

TIA,
John

If the fish isn't too large yet, the 10g will be fine for "sickbay".... I
wouldn't treat with copper myself. From what I've read on RC, dropping salinity
gradually over a few days, and keeping it low for 3 weeks, is the way to kill
ich and end any chance of a new outbreak later. Following that period, take a
few days to raise salinity again to match the display's and after acclimation
the fish can be put back in your reef.

Marc


John B wrote:

> is a 10g enough? or is going to pose problems because it's small and
> unstable?
> I got a sailfin tang that's developing ich, so I dipped it in my roommate's
> f/w tank for 10s, it seems to have slowed it down, but I need to medicate
> it..should I just have a sick tank with some copper in it? Will that be
> enough?
>
> I have a 10g set up that I was going to make into a f/w plant tank, but i'll
> change it to a s/w sick tank if it'd be benificial to have...it's got an
> aquaclear mini filter, a heater, and an incandescent canopy...shouldn't have
> lights if I'm trying to heal them i guess...I would just medicate my display
> tank but I've got live rock in it..can't afford to kill it.
>
> TIA,
> John

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Btw, feeding your fish with food soak in garlic will encourage a healthy
appetite, which will help the fish fight off the infection as well.

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would that be just a crushed up clove of garlic in a bowl of water?

John

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> Btw, feeding your fish with food soak in garlic will encourage a healthy
> appetite, which will help the fish fight off the infection as well.
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It is garlic extract. Formula One (and maybe Two) in *pellet* form has Garlic
already added to the food.

You could mince the garlic very finely and add it with the food, as it
stimulates the fish to eating.

Marc


John B wrote:

> would that be just a crushed up clove of garlic in a bowl of water?
>
> John
>
>

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> is a 10g enough? or is going to pose problems because it's small and
> unstable?
> I got a sailfin tang that's developing ich, so I dipped it in my roommate's
> f/w tank for 10s, it seems to have slowed it down, but I need to medicate
> it..should I just have a sick tank with some copper in it? Will that be
> enough?

a 10 gallon tank will be ok for an 8" sailfin as long as you cover it and add something to
allow him to hide in, there are several things you can use, but SW safe plastic plants
work, and a bent up piece of dark acrylic will do also.

you say you gave it a FW dip but you said 10s I take that to be 10seconds, thats not
really enough to do anything except piss off a sick tang, consider at least 20 minutes, at
either FW or very very close. also dont use copper if you decide you have to use
medications use one of the other popular ones, I like greenX(??) this should only go into
your Q tank, also consider lowering salinity of the Q tank and cranking up the heat to
low 80's room lighting is enough for a fish.

consider spending the $10 on an empty bottom tank for use as a med/q tank it shouldnt need
to be setup normally so it can be stored away when not in use, its a good idea to do that
for a few reasons including it keeps you from deciding to use that tank

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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:04:02 -0800, "Richard Reynolds"
<> wrote:

>> is a 10g enough? or is going to pose problems because it's small and
>> unstable?
>> I got a sailfin tang that's developing ich, so I dipped it in my roommate's
>> f/w tank for 10s, it seems to have slowed it down, but I need to medicate
>> it..should I just have a sick tank with some copper in it? Will that be
>> enough?
>
>a 10 gallon tank will be ok for an 8" sailfin

You are joking, I assume ?



as long as you cover it and add something to
>allow him to hide in, there are several things you can use, but SW safe plastic plants
>work, and a bent up piece of dark acrylic will do also.
>
>you say you gave it a FW dip but you said 10s I take that to be 10seconds, thats not
>really enough to do anything except piss off a sick tang, consider at least 20 minutes, at
>either FW or very very close. also dont use copper if you decide you have to use
>medications use one of the other popular ones, I like greenX(??) this should only go into
>your Q tank, also consider lowering salinity of the Q tank and cranking up the heat to
>low 80's room lighting is enough for a fish.
>
>consider spending the $10 on an empty bottom tank for use as a med/q tank it shouldnt need
>to be setup normally so it can be stored away when not in use, its a good idea to do that
>for a few reasons including it keeps you from deciding to use that tank

> >a 10 gallon tank will be ok for an 8" sailfin
>
> You are joking, I assume ?

not even close

though understand this isnt for normal use this is the imeadiate and temporary care of an
ill fish.

the goal is to get it back to your main tank as soon as its safe, and the sooner the
better.

ive used the same 10 H and Q tanks for a large number of large fish

sailfin tang
naso tang
scorpas tang

pink tailed trigger
medium porcupine puffer

and a few others.

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"Richard Reynolds" <> wrote in message news:aN8Cb.1577$gN.548@fed1read05...
> though understand this isnt for normal use this is the imeadiate and temporary care of an
> ill fish.
>
> the goal is to get it back to your main tank as soon as its safe, and the sooner the
> better.
>
> ive used the same 10 H and Q tanks for a large number of large fish
>
> sailfin tang
> naso tang
> scorpas tang
>
> pink tailed trigger
> medium porcupine puffer
>
> and a few others.

What about the ammonia buildup in such a small water volume?

> > ive used the same 10 H and Q tanks for a large number of large fish

> What about the ammonia buildup in such a small water volume?

ammonia and small water volume are handled the exact same way they are in a large water
volume

in MY Q tank I toss in a sponge filter, it will handle the bio load for even the heaviest
packed 40gallon grow out tanks I NEVER put meds in here

my H tank is a different story, generally I put meds in here generally these meds require
large waterchanges before the next dose, this alone takes care of ammonia. when they dont
require waterchanges generally I can do them anyways. this tank has NO bio filtration
anything added. also where possible I like to use one of the slime coat/ammonia removing
chemicals


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