Animal Advocates Want NY Reptile Museum Closed

Deplorable conditions; sick turtles, snakes and lizards; lack of proper
food, heat and lighting; and overcrowding are just some of the complaints
that have plagued the Long Island Reptile museum since its opening in 1995.
http://www.anc.org/wildlife/wildlife...03_1218_museum
Animal News Center Webmaster

"ANC Webmaster" <> wrote in message
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> Deplorable conditions; sick turtles, snakes and lizards; lack of proper
> food, heat and lighting; and overcrowding are just some of the complaints
> that have plagued the Long Island Reptile museum since its opening in
1995.
>
http://www.anc.org/wildlife/wildlife...03_1218_museum
> Animal News Center Webmaster
>
>

Well, wouldn't it be easier to volunteer to clean up the LI Reptile Museum
and take care of the herps?

oh well.

-cat

Call 1-800-wahh

"ANC Webmaster" <> wrote in message
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> Deplorable conditions; sick turtles, snakes and lizards; lack of proper
> food, heat and lighting; and overcrowding are just some of the complaints
> that have plagued the Long Island Reptile museum since its opening in
1995.
>
http://www.anc.org/wildlife/wildlife...03_1218_museum
> Animal News Center Webmaster
>
>

"ChaosCat" <chaoscat-@-plazma.net> wrote in message news:<GNKdnfQypb3vE36iRVn->...
> "ANC Webmaster" <> wrote in message
> news:01KEb.298010$ .net...
> > Deplorable conditions; sick turtles, snakes and lizards; lack of proper
> > food, heat and lighting; and overcrowding are just some of the complaints
> > that have plagued the Long Island Reptile museum since its opening in
> 1995.
> >
> http://www.anc.org/wildlife/wildlife...03_1218_museum
> > Animal News Center Webmaster
> >
> >
>
> Well, wouldn't it be easier to volunteer to clean up the LI Reptile Museum
> and take care of the herps?
>
> oh well.
>
> -cat

it would seem to me that most "animal adocates", at least the one's
i've seen, would prefer that the mass populace of this world go about
their lives in complete ignorance of the animals that share this
planet. what good is it to me to know that there are interesting and
wonderful creatures out there if i can not see them for myself, and
yes, keep one or two of them as well.

i agree with cat on this one. if you don't want to be a solution to
the problem then get out of the way, because we have plenty enough of
them with out nosey nancy's twisting their privates into knots
everytime an animal suffers. solve it and move on brother. closing the
museum down would just help foster the kind of ignorance that let it
wind up in such a nasty state in the first place. if it's even true.
i find that eco nuts usally blow things way out of proportion anyway.

hey i have no prob with protecting the environment and its animal
inhabitants, but removing us from their's, and they from our's is a
stupid way to try and go about it.

john

"york" <> wrote in message
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> "ChaosCat" <chaoscat-@-plazma.net> wrote in message
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> > "ANC Webmaster" <> wrote in message
> > news:01KEb.298010$ .net...
> > > Deplorable conditions; sick turtles, snakes and lizards; lack of
proper
> > > food, heat and lighting; and overcrowding are just some of the
complaints
> > > that have plagued the Long Island Reptile museum since its opening in
> > 1995.
> > >
> >
http://www.anc.org/wildlife/wildlife...03_1218_museum
> > > Animal News Center Webmaster
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Well, wouldn't it be easier to volunteer to clean up the LI Reptile
Museum
> > and take care of the herps?
> >
> > oh well.
> >
> > -cat
>
> it would seem to me that most "animal adocates", at least the one's
> i've seen, would prefer that the mass populace of this world go about
> their lives in complete ignorance of the animals that share this
> planet. what good is it to me to know that there are interesting and
> wonderful creatures out there if i can not see them for myself, and
> yes, keep one or two of them as well.
>
> i agree with cat on this one. if you don't want to be a solution to
> the problem then get out of the way, because we have plenty enough of
> them with out nosey nancy's twisting their privates into knots
> everytime an animal suffers. solve it and move on brother. closing the
> museum down would just help foster the kind of ignorance that let it
> wind up in such a nasty state in the first place. if it's even true.
> i find that eco nuts usally blow things way out of proportion anyway.
>
> hey i have no prob with protecting the environment and its animal
> inhabitants, but removing us from their's, and they from our's is a
> stupid way to try and go about it.
>
> john


Heh, I think the so-called "animal rights" people just like to find
something to complain about. I'm an "animal rights" person too, but I'd
rather volunteer to help an animal in distress rather than stare at it and
whine.

-cat

Well said, they be trying to recruit people to help not complain to them.

Here guys: A bunch of links where people are complaining baout the LI
Reptile musuem...

http://www.cyclura.com/article/articleview/365/1/1/ - Most recent - NY
Times on Thanksgiving 2003


http://www.redtailboa.net/news_index464.html


http://www.tortoisetrust.org/activit...o%20Report.pdf


http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...utz/news12.htm


http://forum.kingsnake.com/dragon/messages/17224.html


http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....ticle&sid= 25


http://forum.kingsnake.com/anole/messages/17837.html


http://www.plumifrons.nl/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=645


http://www.antonnews.com/hicksvillei...s/reptile.html


http://www.turtletimes.com/forums/to...TOPIC_ID=13056

By the way -

STEVE KATES, owner of the LI Reptile Musuem is a THIEF!!!!!!

Under no circumstances should you ever deal with
this person. Avoid at all costs. Here is my story:

I placed 30 arcade games in a room at the Long Island Reptile Museum.
After 4 months it was evident that the place was not making money and
I decided to remove my machines. Steve Kates called the police and
attempted to say the games were his and that he bought them from me!

I showed the Police the serial numbers and my reciept from buying them
myself. They would not help out saying I had to take him to
court!

On the side the police told me I should show up when Steve wasn't
there and remove my games. They said it is not tresspassing since I
pay some form of rent. Well that is how my Christmas morning was spent
- commando raiding my games.

I managed to get lucky and get my stuff back incident free and I have
learned some valuable lessons.

Let this serve as a warning to you all to avoid STEVE KATES and the
LONG ISLAND REPTILE MUSUEM.

By the way -

STEVE KATES, owner of the LI Reptile Musuem is a THIEF!!!!!!

Under no circumstances should you ever deal with
this person. Avoid at all costs. Here is my story:

I placed 30 arcade games in a room at the Long Island Reptile Museum.
After 4 months it was evident that the place was not making money and
I decided to remove my machines. Steve Kates called the police and
attempted to say the games were his and that he bought them from me!

I showed the Police the serial numbers and my reciept from buying them
myself. They would not help out saying I had to take him to
court!

On the side the police told me I should show up when Steve wasn't
there and remove my games. They said it is not tresspassing since I
pay some form of rent. Well that is how my Christmas morning was spent
- commando raiding my games.

I managed to get lucky and get my stuff back incident free and I have
learned some valuable lessons.

Let this serve as a warning to you all to avoid STEVE KATES and the
LONG ISLAND REPTILE MUSUEM.


Also - here are some web links ot sites telling of all the LI
Reptile's problems...

http://www.cyclura.com/article/articleview/365/1/1/ - Most recent - NY
Times on Thanksgiving 2003

http://www.redtailboa.net/news_index464.html

http://www.tortoisetrust.org/activit...o%20Report.pdf

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homep...utz/news12.htm

http://forum.kingsnake.com/dragon/messages/17224.html

http://www.ball-pythons.net/modules....ticle&sid= 25

http://forum.kingsnake.com/anole/messages/17837.html

http://www.plumifrons.nl/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=645

http://www.antonnews.com/hicksvillei...s/reptile.html

http://www.turtletimes.com/forums/to...TOPIC_ID=13056

"Scott Heit" <> wrote...
> Let this serve as a warning to you all to avoid STEVE KATES and the
> LONG ISLAND REPTILE MUSUEM.
>
> Also - here are some web links ot sites telling of all the LI
> Reptile's problems...

The text here made me weep.
http://forum.kingsnake.com/anole/messages/17837.html

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