Soft corals for a little high nitrate

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by swhastan, Feb 1, 2005.

  1. swhastan

    swhastan Guest

    Hi, guys
    I have a few corals in my aquarium.(Xenia, Zoo, Elegant coral, and anemones)
    Current nitrate level is around 10 ppm. Also, is this level of nitrate
    really dangerous for my corals and anemone?
    Also, I'm trying to reduce it with macro algae such as caulerpa in a 29 G
    refugium, and denitrate matrix rock in power filter. Can I just wait for low
    nitrate level without water change?
    Is water change is the only way to reduce it in a short time?

    Thank you for reading.
    Sungwon
    swhastan, Feb 1, 2005
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  2. Water changes are the ONLY way to lower nitrates, if your
    tank has reached its limit naturally.

    http://www.melevsreef.com/reducing_nitrates.html

    Marc


    swhastan wrote:

    > Hi, guys
    > I have a few corals in my aquarium.(Xenia, Zoo, Elegant coral, and anemones)
    > Current nitrate level is around 10 ppm. Also, is this level of nitrate
    > really dangerous for my corals and anemone?
    > Also, I'm trying to reduce it with macro algae such as caulerpa in a 29 G
    > refugium, and denitrate matrix rock in power filter. Can I just wait for low
    > nitrate level without water change?
    > Is water change is the only way to reduce it in a short time?
    >
    > Thank you for reading.
    > Sungwon
    >
    >


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  3. swhastan

    Billy Guest

    "Marc Levenson" <melev_spam_phobic@swbell.net> wrote in message
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    | Water changes are the ONLY way to lower nitrates, if your
    | tank has reached its limit naturally.


    Marc, could you expand on that, you seem to be contradicting what I
    have been taking for granted, that is other methods of lowering
    nitrates other than water changes.

    billy

    P.S. I'm looking for a TDS meter, recommend one?
    Billy, Feb 2, 2005
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  4. swhastan

    lg Guest

    "Billy" <gordygord2003@yahoo.uknow> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Marc Levenson" <melev_spam_phobic@swbell.net> wrote in message
    > news:RbZLd.12800$2e7.12543@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
    > | Water changes are the ONLY way to lower nitrates, if your
    > | tank has reached its limit naturally.
    >
    >
    > Marc, could you expand on that, you seem to be contradicting what I
    > have been taking for granted, that is other methods of lowering
    > nitrates other than water changes.
    >
    > billy
    >
    > P.S. I'm looking for a TDS meter, recommend one?
    >
    >


    Build a de-nitrator.....good stufff!

    lg
    lg, Feb 2, 2005
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  5. swhastan

    Mark Taylor Guest

    Need a little (lot) more info to advise properly. For example are you using
    Live Rock? DSB? What Skimmer? Size of tank? etc

    As general rules....if using live rock, make sure the structure is fairly
    open with good circulation in/around. When I had a substantial nitrate
    problem upping the circulationa around/through the rock was enough to sort
    it. Clean your skimmer regularly. Think about your feeding/maintainance
    regimens....is there a reason for the nitrates? What water are you using
    for top up/water changes.....have you checked that you are not putting
    nitrates into your tank?

    There is no reason, with a bit of forethought, not to be able to manage the
    nitrates. Water changes can help, but don't get to the root of why the
    nitrates are there.

    "swhastan" <swha1@stanford.edu> wrote in message
    news:ctni6b$qd1$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
    > Hi, guys
    > I have a few corals in my aquarium.(Xenia, Zoo, Elegant coral, and
    > anemones)
    > Current nitrate level is around 10 ppm. Also, is this level of nitrate
    > really dangerous for my corals and anemone?
    > Also, I'm trying to reduce it with macro algae such as caulerpa in a 29 G
    > refugium, and denitrate matrix rock in power filter. Can I just wait for
    > low
    > nitrate level without water change?
    > Is water change is the only way to reduce it in a short time?
    >
    > Thank you for reading.
    > Sungwon
    >
    >
    Mark Taylor, Feb 2, 2005
    #5
  6. swhastan

    swha Guest

    My tank is two month old 75 G with 29G refugium.
    Setup: 40 lb of LR, 50 lb of CaribSea dry rock, 80 lb of LS, RedSea Berlin
    classic protein skimmer with a Rio HF20 pump.
    live stock: a blue tang, a yellow tang, two percular clowns, four damsels
    Zoos, elegant coral, xenia, colt, star polyps, anemones.
    I think the biggest mistake for high nitrate was using tap water for
    cycling. After that, I've used RO water for water change. Nitrate level is
    maintained at 10 ppm over a month after I put macro algae in a refugium. I
    thought macro algae coulld solve a nitrate problem, but it couldn't until
    now. So, I'm wondering which one is better: water change frequently or wait
    for more time.
    Also, I use Nori to feed my yellow tang

    Thanks.



    "Mark Taylor" <drmarktaylor@btinternet.com> wrote in message
    news:ctqmtd$ho3$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
    > Need a little (lot) more info to advise properly. For example are you
    > using Live Rock? DSB? What Skimmer? Size of tank? etc
    >
    > As general rules....if using live rock, make sure the structure is fairly
    > open with good circulation in/around. When I had a substantial nitrate
    > problem upping the circulationa around/through the rock was enough to sort
    > it. Clean your skimmer regularly. Think about your feeding/maintainance
    > regimens....is there a reason for the nitrates? What water are you using
    > for top up/water changes.....have you checked that you are not putting
    > nitrates into your tank?
    >
    > There is no reason, with a bit of forethought, not to be able to manage
    > the nitrates. Water changes can help, but don't get to the root of why
    > the nitrates are there.
    >
    > "swhastan" <swha1@stanford.edu> wrote in message
    > news:ctni6b$qd1$1@news.Stanford.EDU...
    >> Hi, guys
    >> I have a few corals in my aquarium.(Xenia, Zoo, Elegant coral, and
    >> anemones)
    >> Current nitrate level is around 10 ppm. Also, is this level of nitrate
    >> really dangerous for my corals and anemone?
    >> Also, I'm trying to reduce it with macro algae such as caulerpa in a 29 G
    >> refugium, and denitrate matrix rock in power filter. Can I just wait for
    >> low
    >> nitrate level without water change?
    >> Is water change is the only way to reduce it in a short time?
    >>
    >> Thank you for reading.
    >> Sungwon
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    swha, Feb 2, 2005
    #6
  7. swhastan

    CapFusion Guest

    "Billy" <gordygord2003@yahoo.uknow> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Marc Levenson" <melev_spam_phobic@swbell.net> wrote in message
    > news:RbZLd.12800$2e7.12543@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
    > | Water changes are the ONLY way to lower nitrates, if your
    > | tank has reached its limit naturally.
    >
    >
    > Marc, could you expand on that, you seem to be contradicting what I
    > have been taking for granted, that is other methods of lowering
    > nitrates other than water changes.
    >
    > billy
    >
    > P.S. I'm looking for a TDS meter, recommend one?
    >
    >


    Can You be a bit specific? Which part you are referring to having conflict?

    Any TDS meter will do fine if you are trying to measure your source water
    prior to your mix or to your tank.

    CapFusion,...
    CapFusion, Feb 2, 2005
    #7
  8. It is possible to have a tank with 0 nitrates, but that
    isn't very common. LR and a DSB denitrify the water, but if
    the tank is heavily populated, or there is excessive
    feeding, or the equipment used creates nitrates, the LR &
    DSB will not be able to remove it all.

    For example, if the person is using a Wet/Dry sump, or uses
    Biowheels on the returns, or sponges in their overflow
    boxes, these will continuously create more nitrates. The
    only way to remove the excess nitrates is via water changes.
    Once the numbers are low enough, the DSB, LR and macro
    algae can work on the smaller nitrate level, and pretty much
    wipe it out entirely.

    If you check my parameters page on my site, my tanks tend to
    have some nitrates. Turns out clams actually need a little
    nitrate in the water to live, btw. However, there have been
    times in the past when my tests came up ZERO, much to my
    surprise and to my pleasure. :D

    Changing the water, lots of water, will lower nitrates
    quickly and as long as the tank has been set up correctly,
    those numbers will stay down. However, using tap water, an
    UGF, and the other things I mentioned above tend to keep
    nitrates very high.

    Marc
    PS: I use the Hanna hand-held TDS meter, and Marine Depot
    sells them.


    Billy wrote:
    > "Marc Levenson" <melev_spam_phobic@swbell.net> wrote in message
    > news:RbZLd.12800$2e7.12543@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
    > | Water changes are the ONLY way to lower nitrates, if your
    > | tank has reached its limit naturally.
    >
    >
    > Marc, could you expand on that, you seem to be contradicting what I
    > have been taking for granted, that is other methods of lowering
    > nitrates other than water changes.
    >
    > billy
    >
    > P.S. I'm looking for a TDS meter, recommend one?
    >
    >


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    Marc Levenson, Feb 3, 2005
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