Zoa pox

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    AdeptMrSniffles I have a Blue Thumb

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    That's right! Something has attacked my Zoas!
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    I did a freshwater dip and nothing came off, added some Iodine also. What is it?? Anyone know? Looks like chicken pox's, but for corals, lol.
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    daugherty part time reefer

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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    very well could be zoa pox.
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    AdeptMrSniffles I have a Blue Thumb

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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    Wow! I was just kidding about the "Zoa Pox." Only to find that it's real. That really sucks that it kills the colony!!!

    Thx Daugherty
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    daugherty part time reefer

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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    at the bottom of that article there is a treatment for them using furan-2
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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    A Cure

    Thanh Nguyen has discovered a repeatable cure to Zoanthid Pox!

    Now that we know a little more about the problem, here is the rest of the article about the solution provided by Thanh Nguyen.

    An Intrepid Aquarist by the name of Thanh Nguyen has made some remarkable leaps in reversing the Zoanthid Pox with Furan-2.

    Thanh moved to America from his native country of Vietnam in 1990 looking for a better life. He lived in California for 7 years and then moved to Maryland in 1997 to help his mother who was ill with a brain tumor. She needed surgery and support from her family.

    He has always loved tropical fish and his first Salt water Aquarium was a 55 gallon Aqua-clear 500. Like most of us he had his ups and downs keeping a saltwater Aquarium. He then began specializing in fresh water fish and as a result had a lot of success with Furan-2.

    Years later in June 2006 he started a new 75 gallon Reef Aquarium keeping Exotic Zoanthids, SPS, LPS and fishes.

    He considers himself new to the hobby, but the information he has listed below is priceless and makes him wise beyond his years!

    What is Furan-2?

    Thanh states: I used to be a Discus hobbyist and fungus is a common illness for these fishes. Furan-2 is often used to cure fungus and it has worked for me for many times.

    Furan-2 tablets are effective against a wide variety of gram positive and gram negative bacterial diseases for freshwater and saltwater fish. This medication will cause a harmless green color in the aquarium, which can be removed with activated carbon. This medication can be used in conjunction with Aquarium Pharmaceuticals anti-parasitic medications. This medication will not harm the biological filter in fresh or saltwater aquariums.

    For treatment of: Dropsy, furunculosis, gill disease, fin and tail rot and black molly disease.

    Instructions (as per the manufacture):
    1. Use one capsule for every 10 gallons of aquarium water
    2. Wait 24 hours and repeat dose
    3. Wait another 24 hours and make a 25% water change
    4. Repeat this treatment for a second time for a total of 4 doses of Furan-2
    5. Make a final 25% water change and add fresh activated carbon
    6. Repeat if necessary
    Ingredients:
    Each capsule of Furan-2 contains:
    Additional requirements for treatment:
    • 1 cup of RO new saltwater (Update 2009.03.30: For the sake of clarity, we have edited this article to reflect that a cup of new saltwater, non-tank water but new saltwater of appropriate salinity, is needed. This reference change has been made several times in this article, but is only commented on here.)
    • 1 capsule of Furan
    • 1 extra cup of Aquarium Water (this is used to wash the Zoanthids after the treatment and before they are put back into your Aquarium; I do this because I don't want to risk Furan killing any of my fish or other corals).*
    *Note: Through my experiment I found out that even if you don't wash your Zoanthid before putting it back into the main tank, it will not hurt any live stock or corals, (I have tested this on my own). But I'm washing it anyway just to be on the safe side. (ZoaID.com notes: t is always a good idea to target treat infected animals vs. a global tank treatment when possible!)

    PH, Temp, and Salinity Level:
    Make sure you match the temp, pH, and salinity level of your RO new saltwater to your current tank before the treatment.

    Procedure:
    • place 1 capsule into the RO new saltwater cup and mix it good until the RO new saltwater water turns green. Put the zoa in the Furan mix and leave it for xxx minutes. I recommend at least 15 min but not more than 30 min.
    • After the treatment, wash the zoas in your tank water on the other cup you had put aside. Then put the zoas back in the tank where there is a stronger flow.
    *Note: Your zoa will have a green dye to its body but it is fine. The green dye should fade away in a day or two.

    Do 3 treatments in a row then let it rest for 4-7 days; depending on the condition of your Zoanthids. If the ZoaPox is still on the Zoanthids then continue with another three treatments. But make sure you let it rest 4-7 days after every 3 treatments.

    Temp:
    Keep in mind; during the treatment I slowly increase my temp from 78 to 81-82. Furan works best in higher heat. But I would not go over 82. In freshwater I bump it up to 84-86 for Furan treatment against fungus.

    Water Changes:
    I also increase my water changes from 5 gal per week to 10 gal every 3 days. (This is in a 75G tank.)

    *Note: I did another test on the effectiveness of water change. With water changes my Zoanthids seem to recover quicker. On the other hand, Zoanthids that receive no water changes still recover, but it just takes longer.

    Recommended Instructions for long-term treatment of ZoaPox:

    1st WEEK
    • Day 1: 1st treatment started with 20 min dip
    • Day 2: 2nd treatment started with 20 min dip
    • Day 3: 3rd treatment started with 20 min dip
    Let the colony rest for 1 week

    *Note: If your Zoanthid has recovered and you still want to do another dip, please reduce the amount of dipping time when you do so. Also, you don't have to do another treatment if your Zoanthid is completely healed. I'm doing another treatment on mine just to make sure the ZoaPox is completely eradicated.

    2nd WEEK
    • Day 1: 4th treatment started with 10 min dip
    • Day 2: 5th treatment started with 10 min dip
    • Day 3: 6th treatment started with 10 min dip
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    AdeptMrSniffles I have a Blue Thumb

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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    Ya, I'm gonna try and find some at an LFS around here. If I can't I'll continue with some iodine dips.
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    I had some pox before, and used the furan2. It work to some extent, but I didn't continue and it came back so stick with it. I have some left over furan packets you can have. If you want it PM me your address and I'll get them mailed out. They come in small packets so I should just be able to mail them in an envelope.
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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    Great. :( just one more thing to worry about getting!
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    AdeptMrSniffles I have a Blue Thumb

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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    Thanks Bobby. I appreciate the offer, but I picked up a box earlier while getting some water.

    I dosed 1/2 a packet in the bucket of RO water that I have the LR that I'm curing, since I don't have a spare 10G already setup. There seems to be a difference from when I placed them in there and took them out. I'll post pics after the second treatment tom. to compare differences. I hope to keep this thread alive to help anyone else out who may have the same problem. So they can decide if they'd like to dose this treatment as well. :D

    Can a mod rename this thread "Zoa Pox"?
    AdeptMrSniffles, Nov 29, 2009
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    bobby I like to do bad things.

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    Well, good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
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    Re: Zoa invasion!

    I wouldnt dose it in the same container as the LR you are curing. I beleive that the furan is either an anti fungal or anti bacterial medicine and might hinder the curing process.

    Antibacterial Fish Medication: Furan-2
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    AdeptMrSniffles I have a Blue Thumb

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    Well, it's not necessarily "curing". It came from a tank that crashed about 3-4months ago. I've been doing water changes and such on it for about a week and a half, it looks to be fine. Tested for Ammonia and Nitrites last night and both read 0. I'll be taking a test sample to the LFS tom. to double check. If everything checks out OK then I'll be adding a piece or 2 to my tank.
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    AdeptMrSniffles I have a Blue Thumb

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    Update: I've done 2 treatments on the Zoa Pox (first treatment was for 20min., second treatment lasted 25min.) and the small white bumps are almost gone, they no longer protrude from the surface, they're just small specs now. So there is a noticeable difference from 2 treatments. Infact, a couple of the polyps have reopened that were shut before. I took some pics. but decided not to post because they were drowned out in blue from my actinics. I'm going to continue to treat it one more time, as per the guidelines, then see what happens.
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    Good to hear the treatments working.
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    AdeptMrSniffles I have a Blue Thumb

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    Well, bad news. I believe that I caught it too late and only 1 polyp has survived.....
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    bobby I like to do bad things.

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    When mine came back it killed almost all but left a few. After a while though I just threw out all infected zoa's as to not risk the other catching it. Haven't had a prob since. Some zoa's get it really easy while some take a long time and some don't get it at all.

    I lost most of my zoas, but never lost a paly. They seem to not be able to get it.
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    I had zoa pox and tried the Furan II treatment, It did absolutely nothing and the zoas died. I did not try Lugols.
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    [FONT=&quot]You can try giving the zoanthid colonies a bath with an Iodine solution like TM Pro Coral Cure or similar product. The iodine will act as an antiseptic and hopefully kill and or help prevent the spread of the problem you are having.[/FONT]
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