Aquarists vs Marine Biologists

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by J R-S, Mar 18, 2006.

  1. J R-S

    J R-S Guest

    Exactly, I did say that my filter was worth patenting, NOT MY ILLUMINATION
    SYSTEM.
    I hope you get it this time.
    Also, the only reason I put my researches to the side to venture in this
    world is because a friend of mine showed me a REEF AQUARIUM 150 gals that
    has cost him more than $3k. I saw it and told him that he was wasting his
    money, that the same could be achieved with half of what he spent. I meant
    the filtering system including water changes. I did just that and my system
    will be in display soon and pictures will be posted here. Just for the hell
    of it I will buy some corals and throw it in to see if the thrive.
    I believe they will.
    jrs
    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
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    > "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:%YeVf.1992$sU4.152@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    >> You are right about your observation.
    >> In this thread, THAT SHOULD'VE BEEN DEAD A LONG TIME AGO! we are argueing
    >> about two different systems.
    >> Is just that a while back, when all the confussion started and the mixed
    >> up happened, your friend Wayne, argued that even anemonies needed that
    >> light and I said now, then everyone started defending the expensive
    >> illumination refering to corals and I said it is not needed for my
    >> systems.
    >> Well, I am not "trying" to say that it was Wayne's fault (an aquarist) I
    >> am saying that it is!

    >
    > Try to understand, that people keeping animals not requiring expensive
    > lights do not buy expensive lights... Nobody is crazy enough to spend
    > money on stuff they do not really need. The same is with filtration...
    > Keeping one guppy fish in a 100 gallon tank will not require expensive
    > filtration... All is in details: what animals, how many, how big tank
    > etc...
    > If you try to claim something extraordinary, than you need to provide
    > extraordinary proof. And this proof is your responsibility as claimant.
    > So far, from what you have said, I have not noticed anything
    > extraordinary.
    > But you claim it is something like that, something worth patenting...
    > It is not Wayne who said you have great invention worth a patent, you did!
     
    J R-S, Mar 25, 2006
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  2. J R-S

    Pszemol Guest

    "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:tffVf.1994$sU4.1262@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    > Exactly, I did say that my filter was worth patenting,
    > NOT MY ILLUMINATION SYSTEM.
    > I hope you get it this time.


    I got it first time. Jaime, we are not morons here... :)
    I understand what you are trying to say... believe me!

    You said two different things:

    1 - you have invented a filter doing magic to the tank canceling
    the need for water changes and you want to patent this magical filter
    "pretty soon, as soon as things settle out"... :)

    2 - people do not need expensive lights for their reef tanks,
    they can do very well with $100 fixture from Petco...

    People here say both statemets are false, Jaime. Try to understand this...
    Both statements are extraordinary and both require extraordinary proofs.
    It would be similar in any other extraordinary claim you made, like the one
    you keep a baby elefant in your backyard and feed it with red beans from a can :)
    Understand?

    > Also, the only reason I put my researches to the side to venture in this
    > world is because a friend of mine showed me a REEF AQUARIUM 150 gals that
    > has cost him more than $3k. I saw it and told him that he was wasting his
    > money, that the same could be achieved with half of what he spent.


    Maybe it could be, maybe not... We could judge if we knew details on:
    - what tank was it (FO, FOWLR, REEF)
    - what animals exactly were kept in the tank
    - how many animals, how much live rock, etc.
    - what equipment he has purchased totaling more than $3000.

    It is possible he spend his money on stuff not needed in a reef tank
    with live rock (like UV lamp, big and expensive canister filters).
    I see many people buying such stuff recomended by the store without
    doing their own research. I would not generalize about the whole hobby
    based on one example of naive customer coming to the store not knowing
    anything himself.
    It is equaly possible he has purchased correct equipment with a lot
    of expensive live rock, nice skimmer, nice lights and these $3000 were
    well spend on necessary equipment.
    As I said - we need details to judge this purchasing decision.
    The details you did not provide. Saying somebody spent $3000 on a fish
    tank and saying it is too much without knowing anything about the tank
    is silly. You can buy $3000 computer and $300 computer, but they will
    not be the same...

    > I meant the filtering system including water changes.
    > I did just that and my system will be in display soon and pictures
    > will be posted here.


    Cool! In the meantime you can say something more about his system
    and your system - you can keep the secret about your magic filter
    for yourself. Tell us about the animals which are kept in both
    systems (are they the same?) and elaborate a little more on his
    system - what exacly has he spent his $3000 on.

    > Just for the hell of it I will buy some corals and throw it in
    > to see if the thrive. I believe they will.


    You make me laugh a lot with such remarks like the one above...
    We do not care listening to your believes, this is not rec.religion
    newsgroup. Let's talk about REAL FACTS, not your unfounded believes.
     
    Pszemol, Mar 25, 2006
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  3. J R-S

    Pat Guest

    Wow, I thought I was allowed to post in a public internet forum. I'll
    sin all I want by the way. But that's a post for another forum. I love
    me some sinning. You insults sadden me J, I thought a brilliant mind
    like yourself would have a better sense of humor. I'm not in need of
    attention, but I clearly got some...and I love it...we all do. I was
    just asking a sincere question...Why, as a person whom has dedicated so
    many years to learning about animals, are you endangering them with your
    irresponsibility?

    My fish are fine with the light they have...I said I wanted light
    sensitive critters, which you don't have...my bad.

    An inexpensive filtration system...well that's just not new...I thought
    you were recommending inexpensive lights...and had data, or at least a
    therory, to back it up. There is a well respected guy on this forum
    that tells how to build your own filtration system for probably $20(a
    complete guess, I never looked into it) worth of stuff from Home
    Depot...Water changes aren't expensive either...I spend maybe $60 every
    six or so months on salt..That's less than I spend on cat litter...so
    that savings is moot. In my 1 year of fish keeping I've spent the
    following.

    $600 for tank and stand and lights(I'm guessing this is necessary in the
    JRS Patented system)
    $180 protein skimmer (your's is probably cheaper...but lets be honest
    they are all $3.00 worth of parts with $177 mark-up...your's, if
    commercially availible, will be no different)
    $100 other filtration (same concept as skimmer)
    $100 on some live rock(not needed, I just wanted some).
    $300 on the inhabitants. (You're not going to sell me cheaper fish are you?)
    $120 on salt. (Well I assume you need some to start your system...so you
    maybe save me half)

    So you save me $60/year...and my fish get to live in their own piss and
    poop forever...nah, I'll spend the $60.



    J R-S wrote:
    > Well Pat, I am not a babysitter, if you are in need of attention, go to your
    > dad or your mom.
    > If all you want is an illumination for your tank, well, I am using an All
    > Glass 36" TT on a 100 gals aquarium.
    > Now, go and sin no more! I hope I acted responsibly..
    > Oh! I forgot, the filtering system, well that I am not telling yet!
     
    Pat, Mar 25, 2006
  4. J R-S

    Pszemol Guest

    "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:K9fVf.1993$sU4.987@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    > Well Pat, I am not a babysitter, if you are in need of attention,
    > go to your dad or your mom.


    Why are you always trying to be rude?

    > I am using an All Glass 36" TT on a 100 gals aquarium.


    I can imaging an aquarium with no lights at all,
    using only ambient light dispersed in your room.
    It would be enough for keeping lets say - octopus.
    But not all aquariums are created equal, so one
    man lights will not necessarly fit another man tank.
     
    Pszemol, Mar 25, 2006
  5. J R-S wrote:
    > Listen Don!
    > I just came here with an alternative to expensive aquariums.


    No, you didn't. You came here saying you have such a thing, but you will not
    provide any information about it. When I ask how such a thing is done, you tell
    me to ask some of the regulars on the group. So, you have NOT come here with
    alternatives to anything. Just claims for which you refuse to provide any support.

    In other words, on the face of it, you are a bald-faced liar.

    George Patterson
    Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
    your slightly older self.
     
    George Patterson, Mar 26, 2006
  6. J R-S wrote:
    > ... then everyone started defending the expensive illumination
    > refering to corals and I said it is not needed for my systems.


    No, you didn't. You said it is not needed for THEIR systems, and said they were
    fools for spending that kind of money.

    George Patterson
    Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
    your slightly older self.
     
    George Patterson, Mar 26, 2006
  7. J R-S

    J R-S Guest

    Well man, there is no point to keep this thread alive.
    We are getting nothing out of it, you won't believe me and I know you are
    one of those fools that felt insulted because a newby aquarist challenged
    your decision to spend a pretty good amount in unneeded stuff.
    It is OK, believe what you may and lets stop, there are more and better
    things to do with our lifes, now go and be a good boy and buy your expensive
    stuff that make you feel important...
    Who told you I thought you were a moron?
    I know you are!

    jrs
    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
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    > "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:tffVf.1994$sU4.1262@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    >> Exactly, I did say that my filter was worth patenting,
    >> NOT MY ILLUMINATION SYSTEM.
    >> I hope you get it this time.

    >
    > I got it first time. Jaime, we are not morons here... :)
    > I understand what you are trying to say... believe me!
    >
    > You said two different things:
    > 1 - you have invented a filter doing magic to the tank canceling
    > the need for water changes and you want to patent this magical filter
    > "pretty soon, as soon as things settle out"... :)
    >
    > 2 - people do not need expensive lights for their reef tanks,
    > they can do very well with $100 fixture from Petco...
    >
    > People here say both statemets are false, Jaime. Try to understand this...
    > Both statements are extraordinary and both require extraordinary proofs.
    > It would be similar in any other extraordinary claim you made, like the
    > one
    > you keep a baby elefant in your backyard and feed it with red beans from a
    > can :)
    > Understand?
    >
    >> Also, the only reason I put my researches to the side to venture in this
    >> world is because a friend of mine showed me a REEF AQUARIUM 150 gals that
    >> has cost him more than $3k. I saw it and told him that he was wasting
    >> his money, that the same could be achieved with half of what he spent.

    >
    > Maybe it could be, maybe not... We could judge if we knew details on:
    > - what tank was it (FO, FOWLR, REEF)
    > - what animals exactly were kept in the tank
    > - how many animals, how much live rock, etc.
    > - what equipment he has purchased totaling more than $3000.
    >
    > It is possible he spend his money on stuff not needed in a reef tank
    > with live rock (like UV lamp, big and expensive canister filters).
    > I see many people buying such stuff recomended by the store without
    > doing their own research. I would not generalize about the whole hobby
    > based on one example of naive customer coming to the store not knowing
    > anything himself.
    > It is equaly possible he has purchased correct equipment with a lot
    > of expensive live rock, nice skimmer, nice lights and these $3000 were
    > well spend on necessary equipment.
    > As I said - we need details to judge this purchasing decision.
    > The details you did not provide. Saying somebody spent $3000 on a fish
    > tank and saying it is too much without knowing anything about the tank
    > is silly. You can buy $3000 computer and $300 computer, but they will
    > not be the same...
    >
    >> I meant the filtering system including water changes.
    >> I did just that and my system will be in display soon and pictures
    >> will be posted here.

    >
    > Cool! In the meantime you can say something more about his system
    > and your system - you can keep the secret about your magic filter
    > for yourself. Tell us about the animals which are kept in both
    > systems (are they the same?) and elaborate a little more on his
    > system - what exacly has he spent his $3000 on.
    >
    >> Just for the hell of it I will buy some corals and throw it in
    >> to see if the thrive. I believe they will.

    >
    > You make me laugh a lot with such remarks like the one above...
    > We do not care listening to your believes, this is not rec.religion
    > newsgroup. Let's talk about REAL FACTS, not your unfounded believes.
     
    J R-S, Mar 26, 2006
  8. J R-S

    J R-S Guest

    Son, you get what you bargain for!
    jrs
    "Pat" <ozman213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:DKfVf.32145$ty4.20965@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
    > Wow, I thought I was allowed to post in a public internet forum. I'll sin
    > all I want by the way. But that's a post for another forum. I love me
    > some sinning. You insults sadden me J, I thought a brilliant mind like
    > yourself would have a better sense of humor. I'm not in need of
    > attention, but I clearly got some...and I love it...we all do. I was just
    > asking a sincere question...Why, as a person whom has dedicated so many
    > years to learning about animals, are you endangering them with your
    > irresponsibility?
    >
    > My fish are fine with the light they have...I said I wanted light
    > sensitive critters, which you don't have...my bad.
    >
    > An inexpensive filtration system...well that's just not new...I thought
    > you were recommending inexpensive lights...and had data, or at least a
    > therory, to back it up. There is a well respected guy on this forum that
    > tells how to build your own filtration system for probably $20(a complete
    > guess, I never looked into it) worth of stuff from Home Depot...Water
    > changes aren't expensive either...I spend maybe $60 every six or so months
    > on salt..That's less than I spend on cat litter...so that savings is moot.
    > In my 1 year of fish keeping I've spent the following.
    >
    > $600 for tank and stand and lights(I'm guessing this is necessary in the
    > JRS Patented system)
    > $180 protein skimmer (your's is probably cheaper...but lets be honest they
    > are all $3.00 worth of parts with $177 mark-up...your's, if commercially
    > availible, will be no different)
    > $100 other filtration (same concept as skimmer)
    > $100 on some live rock(not needed, I just wanted some).
    > $300 on the inhabitants. (You're not going to sell me cheaper fish are
    > you?)
    > $120 on salt. (Well I assume you need some to start your system...so you
    > maybe save me half)
    >
    > So you save me $60/year...and my fish get to live in their own piss and
    > poop forever...nah, I'll spend the $60.
    >
    >
    >
    > J R-S wrote:
    >> Well Pat, I am not a babysitter, if you are in need of attention, go to
    >> your dad or your mom.
    >> If all you want is an illumination for your tank, well, I am using an All
    >> Glass 36" TT on a 100 gals aquarium.
    >> Now, go and sin no more! I hope I acted responsibly..
    >> Oh! I forgot, the filtering system, well that I am not telling yet!
     
    J R-S, Mar 26, 2006
  9. J R-S

    J R-S Guest

    lol
    How did you know I was bold?
    lol


    jrs
    "George Patterson" <grpphoto@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:CfnVf.2391$W75.603@trnddc07...
    >J R-S wrote:
    >> Listen Don!
    >> I just came here with an alternative to expensive aquariums.

    >
    > No, you didn't. You came here saying you have such a thing, but you will
    > not provide any information about it. When I ask how such a thing is done,
    > you tell me to ask some of the regulars on the group. So, you have NOT
    > come here with alternatives to anything. Just claims for which you refuse
    > to provide any support.
    >
    > In other words, on the face of it, you are a bald-faced liar.
    >
    > George Patterson
    > Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
    > your slightly older self.
     
    J R-S, Mar 26, 2006
  10. J R-S

    J R-S Guest

    I went even farther, I said, and still say, that is foolish to grow corals
    in a house aquarium.
    If you sell lifestock fine to grow corals but, if you just have a home
    aquarium, you are stupid to spend your money growing calcareous rock because
    that is all you are doing. Only the first layer of polyps is alive, the
    layers underneath are dead skeletons. So, why waste your money in doing
    that? It beats me but go and do with your wallet as you please, in my
    humble opinion, YOU ARE STUPID...

    jrs
    "George Patterson" <grpphoto@verizon.net> wrote in message
    news:JhnVf.2392$W75.1688@trnddc07...
    >J R-S wrote:
    >> ... then everyone started defending the expensive illumination
    >> refering to corals and I said it is not needed for my systems.

    >
    > No, you didn't. You said it is not needed for THEIR systems, and said they
    > were fools for spending that kind of money.
    >
    > George Patterson
    > Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
    > your slightly older self.
     
    J R-S, Mar 26, 2006
  11. J R-S

    Pszemol Guest

    "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:nOnVf.3007$KC3.795@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
    > Well man, there is no point to keep this thread alive.


    You are correct.
    No point, because you have nothing interesting to say.
    You have no experience as aquarist. No value to add
    to this newsgroup.

    > Who told you I thought you were a moron?
    > I know you are!


    Every time somebody presses you to the wall with arguments
    you have nothing smart to say but childish insult attempts.

    To sum up this thread: you are neither aquarist nor biologist.

    Very boring... I had enough.
     
    Pszemol, Mar 26, 2006
  12. J R-S

    TheRock Guest

    OK Kid ? Ha ha ha
    Thank you for the compliment.



    "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:200Vf.1778$sU4.484@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    > Well son, I am not giving my identity away. Who is we? just block me and
    > that is it kid!
    >
    > jrs
    > "TheRock" <none@none.com> wrote in message
    > news:b5IUf.7265$092.6547@trndny04...
    >> HOLY FREAKING THREADS !
    >> THE LAST ONE THAT WAS THIS LONG WAS "WHAT'S THE BEST SALT "
    >> AND GUESS WHO SPARKED THAT LONG DEBATE UP ?!?!
    >> I'M STARTING TO SEE A PATTERN HERE.
    >> IT SEEMS THAT JR-S IS STARVED FOR ATTENTION.
    >>
    >> HE POSTS, HE TICKS EVERYONE OFF. FALLS BACK ON I'M A BIO GUY AND THEN
    >> NEVER BACKS UP ANY OF HIS CLAIMS.
    >>
    >> WHY DOESN'T HE POST ANY OF HIS JOURNALS WHEN HE ALWAYS FALLS BACK TO
    >> WELL I'M A MARINE BIO GUY AND I WROTE JOURNALS FOR MIAMI U
    >>
    >> JR-S SHOW US YOUR WORK OR FADE TO BLACK.
    >> WE ARE GROWING TIERED OF YOUR CORN HOLE.
    >>
    >>
    >> "AverageSchmuck" <jschmoe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:q5s5229es1kj33b7j9aj3ke6e8n1lhl6ie@4ax.com...
    >>> yeah I know but even though different approach a still bit of tact and
    >>> finesse still prevails in end with a constructive and positive result
    >>> versus the slam bash he said she said point finger festival that is
    >>> happening now. I know it takes two to tango and noone is innocent in
    >>> the mudslinging just somewhere it has to stop cause it will never stop
    >>> being negative without some sort of agreement. To be honest what I see
    >>> is a claim that has absolutely no credibility until data has been
    >>> offered to support it which none as of this post that I am aware of so
    >>> just seems to me a worthless debate until and big if it is supplied.
    >>>
    >>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:45:55 GMT, Wayne Sallee <Wayne@WayneSallee.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Depends on how you pick him up :)
    >>>>
    >>>>I've caught lion fish with my hands.
    >>>>
    >>>>Wayne Sallee
    >>>>Wayne's Pets
    >>>>Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>AverageSchmuck wrote on 3/23/2006 12:28 PM:
    >>>>> Well example .. recently I think my lionfish I beleive dislocated his
    >>>>> jaw .. He went over a week without eating . I simply added nutrients
    >>>>> to water and patiently waited for him to be able to open his mouth
    >>>>> wide enough to eat some scallops and shrimp parts from my acrlic stick
    >>>>> ... Today finally he ate a shrimp .. Now if I attacked him do you
    >>>>> think
    >>>>> I would have gotten that result? I probably would have ended up with a
    >>>>> very swollen painful hand
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:22:44 GMT, Wayne Sallee <Wayne@WayneSallee.com>
    >>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Maybe we have a slight glimmer of hope that he might be
    >>>>>> able so offer some value to the newsgroup if he can
    >>>>>> straiten his attitude out. He doesn't have a reef tank, so
    >>>>>> that limits his knowledge, but maybe he will decide to
    >>>>>> spend a little money, so that he can learn what it's
    >>>>>> really like to keep a reef aquarium.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Wayne Sallee
    >>>>>> Wayne's Pets
    >>>>>> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> AverageSchmuck wrote on 3/23/2006 12:12 PM:
    >>>>>>> Well yeah that part I understand and that was done however why does
    >>>>>>> it
    >>>>>>> continue?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:10:07 GMT, Wayne Sallee
    >>>>>>> <Wayne@WayneSallee.com>
    >>>>>>> wrote:
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Umm no you don't have it now. It's all about his claim to
    >>>>>>>> be better, when he is not. If we had not disputed his
    >>>>>>>> false claims, people could think that because he claimed
    >>>>>>>> to be a biologist, that the way he said to set up a reef
    >>>>>>>> tank would work, and they would then be sorely
    >>>>>>>> disappointed when their corals started dying, because they
    >>>>>>>> took advice from someone that claimed to be a biologist,
    >>>>>>>> and they trusted his advice blindly.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> That's the great thing about this newsgroup, is that a
    >>>>>>>> person can post a wrong answer, but there are lots of
    >>>>>>>> other people that can come back and correct the answer.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Wayne Sallee
    >>>>>>>> Wayne's Pets
    >>>>>>>> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> AverageSchmuck wrote on 3/22/2006 12:09 PM:
    >>>>>>>>> I think I get get it now ..
    >>>>>>>>> 1. person made claims that go against what I have learned and
    >>>>>>>>> understood and everyone else. Does this make them wrong. Maybe
    >>>>>>>>> maybe
    >>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>> 2. Everyone asks for research data anything to back these claims.
    >>>>>>>>> 3. none provided perosn says they plan on turning future profit
    >>>>>>>>> 4. still none provided ... people start takeing cheap shots at
    >>>>>>>>> each
    >>>>>>>>> other
    >>>>>>>>> 5. cheap shots are getting more brutal Both sides here are guilty
    >>>>>>>>> 6. alleged person is now trying to slow it up a bit but is still
    >>>>>>>>> not
    >>>>>>>>> providing information
    >>>>>>>>> 7. people still thowing stones at each other
    >>>>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    TheRock, Mar 26, 2006
  13. J R-S

    J R-S Guest

    Great, now we can go on!

    jrs
    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    news:e04hdb.6s.1@poczta.onet.pl...
    > "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:nOnVf.3007$KC3.795@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
    >> Well man, there is no point to keep this thread alive.

    >
    > You are correct.
    > No point, because you have nothing interesting to say.
    > You have no experience as aquarist. No value to add
    > to this newsgroup.
    >> Who told you I thought you were a moron?
    >> I know you are!

    >
    > Every time somebody presses you to the wall with arguments
    > you have nothing smart to say but childish insult attempts.
    >
    > To sum up this thread: you are neither aquarist nor biologist.
    >
    > Very boring... I had enough.
     
    J R-S, Mar 26, 2006
  14. Jamie,

    Keeping any type of aquarium at all is a waste of money. An aquarium
    does not provide you with food or shelter. People do it for as many
    differfent reasons as there are differnet kinds of people. If they
    want to keep corals how is that stupider than wanting to keep exotic
    fish?

    You have been posting in a reef keeping new group. Most of the people
    who sub to this group will probably agree that reef keeping involves
    housing corals inside a contained envrionment like a home aquarium. If
    it is your opinion that people who wish to do this are stupid than you
    may as well go on over to alt.people.stupid instead and leave
    rec.aquaria.marine.reefs alone.

    Blake.

    J R-S wrote:
    > I went even farther, I said, and still say, that is foolish to grow corals
    > in a house aquarium.
    > If you sell lifestock fine to grow corals but, if you just have a home
    > aquarium, you are stupid to spend your money growing calcareous rock because
    > that is all you are doing. Only the first layer of polyps is alive, the
    > layers underneath are dead skeletons. So, why waste your money in doing
    > that? It beats me but go and do with your wallet as you please, in my
    > humble opinion, YOU ARE STUPID...
     
    electroblake@gmail.com, Mar 26, 2006
  15. J R-S

    Pszemol Guest

    "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:FkyVf.5170$Ck.864@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
    > Great, now we can go on!


    Who is "we" ? You are alone, Jaime. Alone.
     
    Pszemol, Mar 26, 2006
  16. J R-S

    JR-S Guest

    I know you are, but who am I.
    I am who I say I am and I don't have to prove nothing.
    Below is a link to my picture

    Love,
    JR-S

    Here is a link to a site I am on if you want a picture
    http://www.pbase.com/image/35414787



    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    news:e064bp.2jk.1@poczta.onet.pl...
    > "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:FkyVf.5170$Ck.864@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
    >> Great, now we can go on!

    >
    > Who is "we" ? You are alone, Jaime. Alone.
     
    JR-S, Mar 26, 2006
  17. J R-S

    J R-S Guest

    Ha ! I've designed my tank so I can live in it for 8 months without a water
    change !
    alt.people.stupid !?!?!

    Why don't you go to kiss.my.marine.bio.ass.
    Yes I am touching myself....and you're still not as smart as me.


    <electroblake@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1143395867.148257.226220@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
    > Jamie,
    >
    > Keeping any type of aquarium at all is a waste of money. An aquarium
    > does not provide you with food or shelter. People do it for as many
    > differfent reasons as there are differnet kinds of people. If they
    > want to keep corals how is that stupider than wanting to keep exotic
    > fish?
    >
    > You have been posting in a reef keeping new group. Most of the people
    > who sub to this group will probably agree that reef keeping involves
    > housing corals inside a contained envrionment like a home aquarium. If
    > it is your opinion that people who wish to do this are stupid than you
    > may as well go on over to alt.people.stupid instead and leave
    > rec.aquaria.marine.reefs alone.
    >
    > Blake.
    >
    > J R-S wrote:
    >> I went even farther, I said, and still say, that is foolish to grow
    >> corals
    >> in a house aquarium.
    >> If you sell lifestock fine to grow corals but, if you just have a home
    >> aquarium, you are stupid to spend your money growing calcareous rock
    >> because
    >> that is all you are doing. Only the first layer of polyps is alive, the
    >> layers underneath are dead skeletons. So, why waste your money in doing
    >> that? It beats me but go and do with your wallet as you please, in my
    >> humble opinion, YOU ARE STUPID...

    >
     
    J R-S, Mar 26, 2006
  18. Nice. You really got me. Feeling quite smitten by your obviously
    superior intellect I will make a feeble minded attempt to write a reply
    that is deserving of your incredibly large brain's attention. Ready?
    Here it is:

    "your mom."


    The rest of this message is intended for people who are not as smart as
    you, so you can just go ahead and hit the delete key now.

    My apologies to the rest of the group. I knew it was foolish to
    attempt to talk reason with this kid. I'm guessing that he's probably
    at best a first or second year undergrad at some comunity college who's
    just started in a marine bio program, thus giving him licence to talk
    down to all of us hobbiests. Or, it could be the case that he just
    enjoys picking fights and the marine biologist cover story is a pretty
    good way of getting instant credibility in a forum such as this where
    people might have a genuine interest in the opinions of such a
    professional.

    Anyhow, I'm done with him and I promise I won't reply to any more of
    his posts.

    Blake.
     
    electroblake@gmail.com, Mar 26, 2006
  19. So I guess that makes hitting a little golf ball around a golf course
    pretty dumb too. And that costs even more and you are not producing
    anything. But explain that to the hundreds of thousands who do it for shear
    fun.
    Bill
    "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:AUnVf.3010$KC3.1908@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
    >I went even farther, I said, and still say, that is foolish to grow corals
    >in a house aquarium.
    > If you sell lifestock fine to grow corals but, if you just have a home
    > aquarium, you are stupid to spend your money growing calcareous rock
    > because that is all you are doing. Only the first layer of polyps is
    > alive, the layers underneath are dead skeletons. So, why waste your money
    > in doing that? It beats me but go and do with your wallet as you please,
    > in my humble opinion, YOU ARE STUPID...
    >
    > jrs
    > "George Patterson" <grpphoto@verizon.net> wrote in message
    > news:JhnVf.2392$W75.1688@trnddc07...
    >>J R-S wrote:
    >>> ... then everyone started defending the expensive illumination
    >>> refering to corals and I said it is not needed for my systems.

    >>
    >> No, you didn't. You said it is not needed for THEIR systems, and said
    >> they were fools for spending that kind of money.
    >>
    >> George Patterson
    >> Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong
    >> to
    >> your slightly older self.

    >
    >
     
    William Marsh, Mar 27, 2006
  20. You live in it???
    "J R-S" <notgivingit@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:GxDVf.952$ui7.712@trndny09...
    > Ha ! I've designed my tank so I can live in it for 8 months without a
    > water change !
    > alt.people.stupid !?!?!
    >
    > Why don't you go to kiss.my.marine.bio.ass.
    > Yes I am touching myself....and you're still not as smart as me.
    >
    >
    > <electroblake@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:1143395867.148257.226220@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
    >> Jamie,
    >>
    >> Keeping any type of aquarium at all is a waste of money. An aquarium
    >> does not provide you with food or shelter. People do it for as many
    >> differfent reasons as there are differnet kinds of people. If they
    >> want to keep corals how is that stupider than wanting to keep exotic
    >> fish?
    >>
    >> You have been posting in a reef keeping new group. Most of the people
    >> who sub to this group will probably agree that reef keeping involves
    >> housing corals inside a contained envrionment like a home aquarium. If
    >> it is your opinion that people who wish to do this are stupid than you
    >> may as well go on over to alt.people.stupid instead and leave
    >> rec.aquaria.marine.reefs alone.
    >>
    >> Blake.
    >>
    >> J R-S wrote:
    >>> I went even farther, I said, and still say, that is foolish to grow
    >>> corals
    >>> in a house aquarium.
    >>> If you sell lifestock fine to grow corals but, if you just have a home
    >>> aquarium, you are stupid to spend your money growing calcareous rock
    >>> because
    >>> that is all you are doing. Only the first layer of polyps is alive, the
    >>> layers underneath are dead skeletons. So, why waste your money in doing
    >>> that? It beats me but go and do with your wallet as you please, in my
    >>> humble opinion, YOU ARE STUPID...

    >>

    >
    >
     
    William Marsh, Mar 27, 2006
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