Fire worm!! predator?

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by comcast newserver, Dec 5, 2003.

  1. Hi Foks,
    Im have an infestation of fire worms, any ideas what i can do - i have a few corals and i dont want to use chemicals so im wondering about some predator strategy
    johnb
     
    comcast newserver, Dec 5, 2003
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    Brad Guest

    On Fri, 05 Dec 2003 02:40:41 GMT, "comcast newserver"
    <99john99@comcast.net> wrote:

    >Hi Foks,
    >Im have an infestation of fire worms, any ideas what i can do - i have a few corals and i dont want to use chemicals so im wondering about some predator strategy
    >johnb



    do you mean bristle worms? I've never heard of an infestation of the
    real "fire worms".
     
    Brad, Dec 5, 2003
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  3. yeah my book said they were the same -- i thought...ill look it up again and
    let you know if thats right and which book too
    johnb
     
    comcast newserver, Dec 5, 2003
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  4. most likely bristle worms that you have. while I as well as many others will tell you they are perfectly harmless and one of your best members of the clean up crew, I will try to refrain and just answer your question.

    if they are small there are a few of the wrasses that eat them, the 6 line being one of the most common. Coral Banded Shrimp eat them as well as flat worms if they aren't feed via the tank feedings. also the same goes for the arrow crabs, if they don't get feed directly by extras when you feed the tank, they will eat BW's.

    hth
    kc

    "comcast newserver" <99john99@comcast.net> wrote in message news:JeSzb.306008$ao4.1049822@attbi_s51...
    Hi Foks,
    Im have an infestation of fire worms, any ideas what i can do - i have a few corals and i dont want to use chemicals so im wondering about some predator strategy
    johnb
     
    Dragon Slayer, Dec 5, 2003
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    Pszemol Guest

    Collect as many of them and carefully pack and ship them alive to me... :)
    I will thank you later. BTW - where are you located?

    "comcast newserver" <99john99@comcast.net> wrote in message news:JeSzb.306008$ao4.1049822@attbi_s51...
    Hi Foks,
    Im have an infestation of fire worms, any ideas what i can do - i have a few corals and i dont want to use chemicals so im wondering
    about some predator strategy
    johnb
     
    Pszemol, Dec 5, 2003
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    Wayne Sallee Guest

    In article <JeSzb.306008$ao4.1049822@attbi_s51>, "comcast newserver"
    <99john99@comcast.net> writes:

    >Hi Foks,
    >Im have an infestation of fire worms, any ideas what i can do - i have a =
    >few corals and i dont want to use chemicals so im wondering about some =
    >predator strategy
    >johnb


    Ok so I'm a little behind on the posts. I'm just so bussy thies days.

    But the best thing to eat bristle worms is an arrow crab. They *love* bristle
    worms. Bristle worms lare like candy for them. They are always eating them.

    But keep in mind that unless they are actualy fire worms, bristle worms are
    beneficial, although I did have one decide to choo a whole in my silicone in my
    front left corner of the tank, making it leak, so I had to inject some potasium
    silicate in the corner to stop the leak.

    But if you want something to reduce the brisstle worm population, get an arow
    crab.

    Wayne Sallee
    http://members.aol.com/waynesallee/weblink.htm
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jan 11, 2004
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    Mike Imbler Guest

    Wayne, could you describe how you fixed your tank? I'm not familiar with
    potassium silicate, but I'd like to have your solution on file in case I had
    a small leak like yours!
    thanks, Mike
    "Wayne Sallee" <waynesallee@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:20040111154803.11022.00003402@mb-m14.aol.com...
    > In article <JeSzb.306008$ao4.1049822@attbi_s51>, "comcast newserver"
    > <99john99@comcast.net> writes:
    >
    > >Hi Foks,
    > >Im have an infestation of fire worms, any ideas what i can do - i have a

    =
    > >few corals and i dont want to use chemicals so im wondering about some =
    > >predator strategy
    > >johnb

    >
    > Ok so I'm a little behind on the posts. I'm just so bussy thies days.
    >
    > But the best thing to eat bristle worms is an arrow crab. They *love*

    bristle
    > worms. Bristle worms lare like candy for them. They are always eating

    them.
    >
    > But keep in mind that unless they are actualy fire worms, bristle worms

    are
    > beneficial, although I did have one decide to choo a whole in my silicone

    in my
    > front left corner of the tank, making it leak, so I had to inject some

    potasium
    > silicate in the corner to stop the leak.
    >
    > But if you want something to reduce the brisstle worm population, get an

    arow
    > crab.
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > http://members.aol.com/waynesallee/weblink.htm
     
    Mike Imbler, Jan 11, 2004
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    Wayne Sallee Guest

    In article <s3jMb.17191$6y6.443345@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Mike
    Imbler" <mike-imbler@worldnet.att.net> writes:

    >Wayne, could you describe how you fixed your tank? I'm not familiar with
    >potassium silicate, but I'd like to have your solution on file in case I had
    >a small leak like yours!


    I disolved silicate with potasium hydroxide.
    It's not like resealing the tank with silicone rubber, but it beats having to
    clear out the tank to reseal it. I simply used a hyperdermic needle, pushed it
    down through the sand, and into the silicone where the tunnel was dug by the
    worm, and injected the potasium silicate. I've had to repeat this a few times,
    as it gets cleaned out by critters, but it should become stronger over time,
    and it's just a small area.

    What happened is there is a small air passage in between the glass on the
    bottom left corner, but the silicone on the inside sealed it up, but when the
    worm dug through that, the small imperfection air space was exposed, and it
    slowly leaked.


    Wayne Sallee
    http://members.aol.com/waynesallee/weblink.htm
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jan 12, 2004
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    Mike Imbler Guest

    Thanks Wayne! That's a trick I'll file for the future.
    Mike
    "Wayne Sallee" <waynesallee@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:20040111192415.15462.00005617@mb-m06.aol.com...
    > In article <s3jMb.17191$6y6.443345@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,

    "Mike
    > Imbler" <mike-imbler@worldnet.att.net> writes:
    >
    > >Wayne, could you describe how you fixed your tank? I'm not familiar with
    > >potassium silicate, but I'd like to have your solution on file in case I

    had
    > >a small leak like yours!

    >
    > I disolved silicate with potasium hydroxide.
    > It's not like resealing the tank with silicone rubber, but it beats having

    to
    > clear out the tank to reseal it. I simply used a hyperdermic needle,

    pushed it
    > down through the sand, and into the silicone where the tunnel was dug by

    the
    > worm, and injected the potasium silicate. I've had to repeat this a few

    times,
    > as it gets cleaned out by critters, but it should become stronger over

    time,
    > and it's just a small area.
    >
    > What happened is there is a small air passage in between the glass on the
    > bottom left corner, but the silicone on the inside sealed it up, but when

    the
    > worm dug through that, the small imperfection air space was exposed, and

    it
    > slowly leaked.
    >
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > http://members.aol.com/waynesallee/weblink.htm
     
    Mike Imbler, Jan 12, 2004
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  10. what does a fire worm look like & why is it bad. i have some red
    worms that look like fishing worms from the tackle shop, only shorter
    & more red. are they bad guys?
     
    Shane Kennedy, Jan 12, 2004
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    Wayne Sallee Guest

    In article <133c94fb.0401121104.5b1b1249@posting.google.com>,
    shanekennedy00@netscape.net (Shane Kennedy) writes:

    >what does a fire worm look like & why is it bad. i have some red
    >worms that look like fishing worms from the tackle shop, only shorter
    >& more red. are they bad guys?


    No they are not the bad guys. Some people don't like bristle worms. Bristle
    worms look like red fat worms with white brisstles on the side, kindof like a
    cattapiller, but only a narrow row on each side. I like brisstle worms, but
    they can often get quite numourous in some tanks. Some people don't like them
    at all. They also will irityate your hands if you touch one. The fire worms
    look the same, but are much larger. Usualy you won't find any fire worms in a
    tank. Often bristle worms are mistakenly called fire worms.

    Wayne Sallee
    http://members.aol.com/waynesallee/weblink.htm
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jan 25, 2004
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