Fish....what are they good for?

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Damseluver, Jan 4, 2008.

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    Damseluver

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    When it comes to reef tanks not absolutely nothing but pretty darn close.

    Over my years of reef keeping nearly 100 percent of the problems, frustrations and worry associated with these tanks are directly related to the only vertebrates in the tank, fish, and there requirement for the hobbyist to add pollutants to the tank, food.

    The conclusion I have come to in regards to reef tanks is that a decision has to be made at the outset as to what the focus of the tank is going to be. Fish or reef? IMO you cant really have both.

    This brings me to my screen name "damseluver". They are now the only fish I own. The benefits are many.

    Inexpensive!!!!

    Unless overstocked present a low bio load.

    Active, interesting, attractive. Just because the fish has a low price tag does not mean a thing. Keep in mind that if you put a high enough price tag on a barrel of manure some one is likely to buy it. Especially if you label it as a "modern art masterpiece".

    Disease resistant.

    100 percent reef safe

    Extremely low feeding requirement. A pinch of cyclopeze every two or three days and they are perfectly happy.

    Of course we all know of here aggressive tendency but if all you keep is damsels this is not a problem either.

    Since limiting myself to this species in my reef tanks many headaches have vanished. No QT which generally turn into treatment tanks when you find that your expensive specimen is parasite exposed.

    The money saved is availabel for equipment and supplies much more important to the reefs success.

    The limited feeding has virtually eliminate water quality problems and there related results. Cyano, algae etc.

    So for me its hats off to the underappreciated Damsel. IMO they are the perfect reef inhabitant.
     
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    bobby I like to do bad things.

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    LOL Good write up.
     
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    fishbait I found Nemo

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    glad you have found you're favorite fish. but, I think I will have to stick to my disease ridden, parasite infested, ich prone, cyano causing fish. the variety of fish to watch, along with the challenge of creating and maintaining "the perfect" reef tank is what keeps me in this hobby.
     
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    Doc I don't work for anybody

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    fishbait, I have to agree. I did run into multiple problems when I started the hobby with the reef and fish combo, but since, I have pretty much figured it out. my tanks look pretty darn good and my fish are all healthy. the variety and beauty of my anthias, tangs, angels, trigger, are just unmatched. I thought of just putting in one or two fish in a tank with loads of corals, but to do that would be lying to myself. corals are nice and people seem to like them. they add a nice background for my fish. I am in this hobby for fish and corals are just too nice a background to ignore.

    Now then, with my angels, I only have soft corals now and they are looking cool. my plan is to limit corals in that tank and grow me some damn big fish

    -Doc
     
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    My hat is off to you....to each there own.

    IMO,you can have both and still have a beautiful reef.Its all about diversity and challenge.Its not about reaching the goal as much as it is the struggle.(Now where have I heard that before?)
     
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    fishbait I found Nemo

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    so reef, what you are saying is, it's a lot like chasing women when you were young and single?
     
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    yote Ceritfied Mantis Hunter Moderator

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    Like Reef said,To each his own.
    We all do our best to make our reefs look as natural as possible.I just dont think it can be done without a variety of fish.
     
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    If there is no challenge, there is no glory. Its the challenge and all the problems associated with reefs that make them so praise worthy...

    If it were easy, no one would have admiration for it. I consider this an art form which requires practice, experience & dedication.

    Anyone can pick up a guitar and make a sound with it. But only the one who practiced and stayed dedicated for years can make beautiful music. Same goes for reefs.
     
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    Bifferwine I am a girl

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    Oh man, this thread is gonna make me cry!!! You are all so sentimental ;)
     
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    RigoSharon LIVING REEFS INTERN

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    lol..i wish i could write english that way..besides..nice tank, amazing fish..pure envy..etc..
     
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    Doc I don't work for anybody

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    well put. I like how all the work is praised by others. that is what makes pics here so cool. We know how hard it is to get a tank looking better than average and it is worthy of praise. I agree that if it were easy, no one would be impressed by our living works of art

    -Doc
     
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    kimoy CERTIFIED BUM

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    I agree with freak on this one and I will add more. For me adding a fish in a reef tank, I make sure that it is benefecial to the tank. meaning that it has to do something to the eco system in the little glass box I have, like eating algae and such. with that said, tangs are my first choice(but I choose carefully like yellow tang, hippo and palini) a wrasse which eats nudis and worms. I can go on and on with this but you got the idea.
     
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    Why,I can't be old and married an still chase women?:grumble:
     
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    Doc I don't work for anybody

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    well, you still can, I suppose. It just requires you spending a lot of money to get what you want. Escorts are not cheap I hear.

    -Doc
     
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    Bifferwine I am a girl

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    The ones I pimp out are... We're not talking high quality here. ;)
     
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    I'm kinda the same way. I bought a sand sifting goby because I'm running a DSB in my display tank. He does a fine job of moving piles of sand from here to there and back again.

    I bought a 6-line because there is a natural food source in the tank for him--copepods. I think he might eat a bristleworm now and then.

    The clown was strictly for my kids. Ya know-- Nemo. :roll: But it keeps them interested in the tank. They love to help out with water changes and water testing. Gotta make sure Nemo is happy. He's not real happy right now, because he caught ich from a flame angel that I introduced without doing a proper quarantine first.If he doesn't pull through, I'm gonna have to make one of those emergency trips to the LFS and buy another just like him so the kids don't know. Probably an early morning trip down the toilet bowl in his near future. He's not lookin' good.

    I couldn't do a tank full of damnsels. I'd rather have a tank without a single fish than a tank full of damnsels.
     
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