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    imdaring love my reef

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    ??? What happened to my tank went to the beach toady and came hoe to this? I started to use MRS. Wadges pickling lime 1 tsp per gal of top off water would that be what is doing it??? HELP

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    winyfrog Yep!

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    Is your top off working properly? normally when a system dumps that much in its due to your auto top off failing.

    How do you mix the pickling lime in your top of chamber? Power head? what is its cycle?

    Did you do a water change yet?
     
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    ndepratt Equipment Junkie

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    oh sheesh.... what's your calcium and alk testing out to be!?

    looks like precipitation?
     
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    looks like precipitation to me..
     
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    KH 161
    cal 460
     
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    yikes 161!!!!????? you sure?!
     
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    KH of 161=9 DKh which aint bad.
    Calcium looks good.

    Did you strain off the clear kalk from the powdery stuff at the bottom?
     
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    oh i thought he meant dkh..

    think it could be an bacteria bloom?
     
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    NO how do you starin it??? this is the first time using pickling lime?
     
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    did a water change and have cleaned the spongers 2 x's now and I have also been blowing off the rocks and this is how it looks now

    PROGRESS

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    Don't even bother testing untill everything settles. The test kit is reading the suspended particles now. Your alk will end up being very low when the tank clears up. You basically threw your chemistry out of balance and caused a precipitaion event. The carbonates that precipitated will not dissolve back into solution so you will have to dose to bring them back up.

    I'll throw this in too, even tho I don't think anyone ever reads all these informative links I post.

    What is that Precipitate in My Reef Aquarium?
    "The following important points should help in dealing with a limewater overdose:
    1. Don't panic! These overdoses do not usually cause a tank to crash.
    2. The primary concern is pH. If the pH is 8.6 or lower, you need not do anything. If the pH is above 8.6, then reducing the pH is the priority. Direct addition of vinegar or soda water is a good way to accomplish this goal. Either one mL of distilled white vinegar, or six mL of soda water, per gallon of tank water will give an initial pH drop of about 0.3 pH units. Add either to a high flow area that is away from organisms (e.g., a sump).
    3. Do not bother to measure calcium or alkalinity while the tank is cloudy. The solid calcium carbonate particles will dissolve in an alkalinity test, and all of the carbonate in them will be counted as if it were in solution and part of "alkalinity." The same may happen to some extent with calcium tests. Wait until the water clears, and at that point, alkalinity is more likely to be low than high. Calcium will likely be mostly unchanged.
    4. The particles themselves will typically settle out and disappear from view over a period of 1-4 days. They do not appear to cause long term detrimental effects to tank organisms.
    5. Water changes are not necessarily beneficial or needed in response to a limewater overdose."
     
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    This is why I quit using kalk with my ATO. It also got the valve stuck really easily, meaning more time cleaning it. I stick to Randy's 2 part now. Hope everything works out man, you gotta lotta nice corals in that tank!
     
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    tank is clear as a bell.. I need to rinse the sponges one more time and it should be good ..what is Randys 2 part? so do you recomend not using pickling lime?? I need to clean out my ATO tank

     
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    Why are you dosing in the 1st place? Do you know how much alk/ca your tank is consuming daily? As you see, you can't just guess what you need or don't need to supplement.
     
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    I don't dose anything in my tank at all I had heard that using the pickling lime would help my PH becase it is always low thats why I started to use it .. I put it in my ATO 3 days ago
     
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    Much better! That's a nice lookin' tank!
     
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    here is the tank today the outside of the glass is cloudy from me messing with it yesterday but it's clear as a bell

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    Beautiful!
     
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    I can't wait to set up my new 90 gal
     
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