How smart are fish ?

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Pszemol, Jul 23, 2006.

  1. Agree 110%
    iy
    "RubenD" <samotors@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:TPbyg.12772$2v.6387@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
    >I HAVE YOUR ANSWER.
    >
    > FISH ARE SMARTER THAN THE PEOPLE WRITING IN THESE POSTINGS, WHO BELIEVE
    > THEY KNOW EVERYTHING BUT HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
    >
    > THIS THREAD IS NOTHING BUT A P'SING CONTEST WHICH EVERYBODY LOST AT START.
    >
    > FOR CRYING ALOUD STOP THE NONSENSE AND FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL NEWSGROUP:
    >
    > FISH.
    >
    >
    > PLEASE, DON'T BOTHER REPLYING UNLESS YOU ARE A FISH.
    > "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    > news:e9u4bu.2po.1@poczta.onet.pl...
    >> I have a problem... in my huge wisom I have covered a side wall
    >> of the fishtank with a mirror-foil. Just to cover the unpleasant view
    >> behind of the tank... and to get some more light reflected back.
    >> Today I let the fish in this new tank...
    >>
    >> A pair of maroon clowns and hepatus tang get crazy seeing their
    >> own reflection in the tank wall.
    >>
    >> Now my title question: will they realize this is just a mirror
    >> soon or they will continue to fight the other fish in the mirror?
    >> How smart are they ?
    >>
    >> It is difficult to take the foil off since it is in a tight space
    >> between the tank and room wall... First day I turned off the lights
    >> sooner and wonder what will the group advice be...
    >> Should I go trought the trouble of removing the foil or the fish
    >> will get used to this reflection soon ? If so, how soon will it be ?

    >
    >
     
    Inabón Yunes, Jul 29, 2006
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  2. Pszemol

    Boomer Guest

    I beginning to think that fish are smarter than all you guys arguing :) God , no God.

    Here is my take on it. . I don't "believe" either but if God or Jesus landed on the
    shores of Lake Superior, where I live, I would be down there waving my hands :LOL

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    Boomer, Jul 29, 2006
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    billyguy68 Guest

    All of this has NOTHING to do with my reef aquarium. My daily digest
    emails are worthless. I don't want to read a bunch of name calling and
    pointless argueing. Is there someway I can filter these posting's to
    only see the one's that are on the topic of the group -Aquariums???


    Wayne Sallee wrote:
    > I just now did via e-mail. This thread is getting a bit
    > old for the newsgroup.
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > Wayne's Pets
    > Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >
    >
    > Pszemol wrote on 7/28/2006 4:19 PM:
    > > "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    > > news:44CA6995.5080007@WayneSallee.com...
    > >> No, the link was for "poczta.onet.pl". That's the newsgroup server
    > >> that you are using.

    > >
    > > You are incorrect again, but this is not the point of
    > > this conversation.
    > >
    > > Are you going to answer my question or you pass ?
     
    billyguy68, Jul 29, 2006
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  4. Pszemol

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    What internet provider do you use? Do they not provide
    newsgroups?

    Wayne Sallee
    Wayne's Pets
    Wayne@WaynesPets.com


    billyguy68 wrote on 7/29/2006 11:19 AM:
    > All of this has NOTHING to do with my reef aquarium. My daily digest
    > emails are worthless. I don't want to read a bunch of name calling and
    > pointless argueing. Is there someway I can filter these posting's to
    > only see the one's that are on the topic of the group -Aquariums???
    >
    >
    > Wayne Sallee wrote:
    >> I just now did via e-mail. This thread is getting a bit
    >> old for the newsgroup.
    >>
    >> Wayne Sallee
    >> Wayne's Pets
    >> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>
    >>
    >> Pszemol wrote on 7/28/2006 4:19 PM:
    >>> "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:44CA6995.5080007@WayneSallee.com...
    >>>> No, the link was for "poczta.onet.pl". That's the newsgroup server
    >>>> that you are using.
    >>> You are incorrect again, but this is not the point of
    >>> this conversation.
    >>>
    >>> Are you going to answer my question or you pass ?

    >
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jul 29, 2006
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  5. Pszemol

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    also check out http://waynesallee.com/newsgroup.htm

    Wayne Sallee
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    Wayne Sallee wrote on 7/29/2006 12:35 PM:
    > What internet provider do you use? Do they not provide newsgroups?
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > Wayne's Pets
    > Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >
    >
    > billyguy68 wrote on 7/29/2006 11:19 AM:
    >> All of this has NOTHING to do with my reef aquarium. My daily digest
    >> emails are worthless. I don't want to read a bunch of name calling and
    >> pointless argueing. Is there someway I can filter these posting's to
    >> only see the one's that are on the topic of the group -Aquariums???
    >>
    >>
    >> Wayne Sallee wrote:
    >>> I just now did via e-mail. This thread is getting a bit
    >>> old for the newsgroup.
    >>>
    >>> Wayne Sallee
    >>> Wayne's Pets
    >>> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Pszemol wrote on 7/28/2006 4:19 PM:
    >>>> "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:44CA6995.5080007@WayneSallee.com...
    >>>>> No, the link was for "poczta.onet.pl". That's the newsgroup server
    >>>>> that you are using.
    >>>> You are incorrect again, but this is not the point of
    >>>> this conversation.
    >>>>
    >>>> Are you going to answer my question or you pass ?

    >>
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jul 29, 2006
    #85
  6. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    "Boomer" <wcwing@nospamchartermi.net> wrote in message news:csxyg.8988$2M3.3388@fe04.lga...
    > I beginning to think that fish are smarter than all you guys arguing :) God , no God.
    >
    > Here is my take on it. . I don't "believe" either but if God or Jesus landed on the
    > shores of Lake Superior, where I live, I would be down there waving my hands :LOL


    Really? How would you recognise him/her ? ;-)
     
    Pszemol, Jul 29, 2006
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  7. Pszemol

    Boomer Guest

    Well, that should be obvious, he/she would be walking on water :)

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    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message news:eafq7d.2s0.1@poczta.onet.pl...
    : "Boomer" <wcwing@nospamchartermi.net> wrote in message
    news:csxyg.8988$2M3.3388@fe04.lga...
    : > I beginning to think that fish are smarter than all you guys arguing :) God , no God.
    : >
    : > Here is my take on it. . I don't "believe" either but if God or Jesus landed on the
    : > shores of Lake Superior, where I live, I would be down there waving my hands :LOL
    :
    : Really? How would you recognise him/her ? ;-)
     
    Boomer, Jul 30, 2006
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  8. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    "billyguy68" <rednekid@charter.net> wrote in message news:1154186364.107427.104530@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
    > All of this has NOTHING to do with my reef aquarium. My daily digest
    > emails are worthless. I don't want to read a bunch of name calling and
    > pointless argueing. Is there someway I can filter these posting's to
    > only see the one's that are on the topic of the group -Aquariums???


    Do you expect a filter to be able to determine if the posting is
    on the subject of the aquariums or not ? Good luck with that idea...
     
    Pszemol, Jul 30, 2006
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  9. Pszemol

    Deb Hadford Guest

    Man, I thought this thread was going to be about smart fish, because I
    know mine are smarter than yours !

    And you nuts might have apes in your family tree, but not this
    gal.....;-)
     
    Deb Hadford, Jul 30, 2006
    #89
  10. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    "Deb Hadford" <d.hadford@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:1154284908.256119.9240@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >
    > Man, I thought this thread was going to be about smart fish, because I
    > know mine are smarter than yours !


    How can you know this ? :) Tell me about your fish...

    > And you nuts might have apes in your family tree, but not this
    > gal.....;-)


    ToE does not say we, humans, have apes in family tree
    but that we, humans and apes "have a common ancestor".
    This is quite a big of a difference but many people do
    a mistake like you have done :)
     
    Pszemol, Jul 31, 2006
    #90
  11. Pszemol

    RicSeyler Guest

    You still have the issue that they were verbal stories passed down
    before they were written down. Hence the "telephone game" syndrome
    that could occur.

    Inabón Yunes wrote:

    >It gets even worst!
    >The "originals" were actually written in Greek which, at the time, was the
    >official written language. Or they use they Greek alphabets.
    >Remember, Paul to mention one, was a Roman...
    >iy
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


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    RicSeyler, Jul 31, 2006
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  12. Pszemol

    RicSeyler Guest

    <rim shot> HAHAHAHA
    He teed that one up right up for ya, huh! :)

    Boomer wrote:

    >Well, that should be obvious, he/she would be walking on water :)
    >
    >
    >


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    RicSeyler, Jul 31, 2006
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  13. This thread isn't worst it. It should have finished a long time ago!
    There is always someone, like you for example, that try to keep it alive.
    You and any human for that matter, is only 2% of DNA away from any ape.
    That means that in your family tree THERE ARE APES, like it or not. Take
    all the DNA that you share with apes and there is nothing left from you. I
    take that back, you'll have ankles and feet left. Maybe a little less furr
    or maybe a little less gray matter.
    iy
    "Deb Hadford" <d.hadford@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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    >
    > Man, I thought this thread was going to be about smart fish, because I
    > know mine are smarter than yours !
    >
    > And you nuts might have apes in your family tree, but not this
    > gal.....;-)
    >
     
    Inabón Yunes, Aug 1, 2006
    #93
  14. Even if they did write down everything at the moment, the Catholic Popes of
    the time changed those writings to their liking and eliminated crucial
    information to fit the beliefs of that church. They even changed the 10
    Commandments. Those are the bibles that protestants used later.
    iy
    "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message
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    > You still have the issue that they were verbal stories passed down
    > before they were written down. Hence the "telephone game" syndrome
    > that could occur.
    >
    > Inabón Yunes wrote:
    >
    >>It gets even worst!
    >>The "originals" were actually written in Greek which, at the time, was the
    >>official written language. Or they use they Greek alphabets.
    >>Remember, Paul to mention one, was a Roman...
    >>iy
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
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    Inabón Yunes, Aug 1, 2006
    #94
  15. Pszemol

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    You don't know what you are talking about.

    Wayne Sallee
    Wayne's Pets
    Wayne@WaynesPets.com


    Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/31/2006 8:13 PM:
    > Even if they did write down everything at the moment, the Catholic Popes of
    > the time changed those writings to their liking and eliminated crucial
    > information to fit the beliefs of that church. They even changed the 10
    > Commandments. Those are the bibles that protestants used later.
    > iy
    > "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message
    > news:l%pzg.28409$ZH1.9289@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    >> You still have the issue that they were verbal stories passed down
    >> before they were written down. Hence the "telephone game" syndrome
    >> that could occur.
    >>
    >> Inabón Yunes wrote:
    >>
    >>> It gets even worst!
    >>> The "originals" were actually written in Greek which, at the time, was the
    >>> official written language. Or they use they Greek alphabets.
    >>> Remember, Paul to mention one, was a Roman...
    >>> iy
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >> --
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    >> remove –SPAM- from email address
    >> --------------------------------------
    >> "Homer no function beer well without."
    >> - H.J. Simpson

    >
    >
     
    Wayne Sallee, Aug 1, 2006
    #95
  16. Re: Where did we and our corals come from?

    Wayne Sallee wrote:
    > atomweaver wrote on 7/27/2006 3:39 PM:
    > > Wayne Sallee <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in
    > > news:44C9041D.1040601@WayneSallee.com:
    > >
    > >> You can take guppies or other fish, and breed them to get
    > >> them the way you want them in color and fin pattern, but
    > >> you can only go so far, and you start running into
    > >> problems with defects such as sterility.
    > >>

    > > We talked about aquarium breeders before, Wayne. They don't compare
    > > at all to strains in nature.
    > >
    > > 1. How wide is a breeder's selection of genetic stock, as compared to
    > > that of nature? If the richest breeder in the world put all of his
    > > resources into one common fish variety (sya, guppies, per your example),
    > > he couldn't get get one millionth of the variety of genetic stock
    > > available in nature...

    >
    > Not true, many creatures can be raised in such numbers
    > that they would never come in contact with in the wild.
    >


    Fish breeders can be prolific, but again, it all starts with a limited
    number of gene strains.
    When it doesn't (say, with the betta breeders in Southeast Asia)
    problems of sterility or whatnot are lessened (but still present, again
    because a fish breeder isn't selecitng fish naturally, but rather
    artificially.)

    > >
    > > 2. What impact does the artificial selection process of the breeder
    > > have on the longevity of that genetic stock, as compared to the
    > > selection process outlined by natural selection? As you yourself
    > > pointed out above, breeders don't select for the species most fit to
    > > survive to a reproductive age (and then let them breed), they cull based
    > > on colorforms, size, finnage, etc, call them "sellable" traits, and work
    > > to "fix" those sellable traits, by cross and inter-breeding lines.
    > > Thats not the same process as Dear ol' Mother Nature, at all.

    >
    > Sure it is, it's survival of the fittest.


    It is not. Again, you show a fundamental misunderstanding of ToE by
    natural selection (...actually by this point, I'm becoming convinced
    that you're being deliberately obtuse. But if you want to keep serving
    up softballs like this, I'll keep playing the role of Big Papi.)
    "Survival of the fittest" is the scientific equivalent of a TV
    soundbite, and your understanding of it fails to go any deeper than
    this. Its "those most fit to reproduce" which are selected for in
    nature. Man (in the form of a fish breeder, in our example) bypasses
    that mechanism, and substitutes it with his own set of criteria.

    DaveZ
    Atom Weaver
    (back from a four-day weekend sea-side. Missed me, didn't you Wayne?
    ;-)
     
    atomweaver@sbcglobal.net, Aug 1, 2006
    #96
  17. No thanks Wayne, the only one here with that title is you.
    Did the catholic popes change the bible? yes
    Did the catholic popes create the current calendar? yes
    Did the catholic popes discart books written by those who knew Jesus? yes
    Did the catholic popes change the first commandment? yes
    Whatever they did to the bible is hidden in the Vatican tunnels.
    Those versions of the New Testament are forever changed. They couldn't
    change the Old Testament because it was controlled by the Jews. But the New
    Testament is another story. Every single christian during that time was
    catholic and took their word for it.
    Lucky for guys that belief in the bible as the word of God the Dead Sea
    Scrools were found and tell of a different story.
    iy
    "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    news:44CEA35E.4030704@WayneSallee.com...
    > You don't know what you are talking about.
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > Wayne's Pets
    > Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >
    >
    > Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/31/2006 8:13 PM:
    >> Even if they did write down everything at the moment, the Catholic Popes
    >> of the time changed those writings to their liking and eliminated crucial
    >> information to fit the beliefs of that church. They even changed the 10
    >> Commandments. Those are the bibles that protestants used later.
    >> iy
    >> "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message
    >> news:l%pzg.28409$ZH1.9289@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    >>> You still have the issue that they were verbal stories passed down
    >>> before they were written down. Hence the "telephone game" syndrome
    >>> that could occur.
    >>>
    >>> Inabón Yunes wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> It gets even worst!
    >>>> The "originals" were actually written in Greek which, at the time, was
    >>>> the official written language. Or they use they Greek alphabets.
    >>>> Remember, Paul to mention one, was a Roman...
    >>>> iy
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> --
    >>> Ric Seyler
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    >>> ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net
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    >>> remove –SPAM- from email address
    >>> --------------------------------------
    >>> "Homer no function beer well without."
    >>> - H.J. Simpson

    >>
     
    Inabón Yunes, Aug 2, 2006
    #97
  18. Pszemol

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    That's nonsense.

    Wayne Sallee
    Wayne's Pets
    Wayne@WaynesPets.com


    Inabón Yunes wrote on 8/1/2006 10:50 PM:
    > No thanks Wayne, the only one here with that title is you.
    > Did the catholic popes change the bible? yes
    > Did the catholic popes create the current calendar? yes
    > Did the catholic popes discart books written by those who knew Jesus? yes
    > Did the catholic popes change the first commandment? yes
    > Whatever they did to the bible is hidden in the Vatican tunnels.
    > Those versions of the New Testament are forever changed. They couldn't
    > change the Old Testament because it was controlled by the Jews. But the New
    > Testament is another story. Every single christian during that time was
    > catholic and took their word for it.
    > Lucky for guys that belief in the bible as the word of God the Dead Sea
    > Scrools were found and tell of a different story.
    > iy
    > "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    > news:44CEA35E.4030704@WayneSallee.com...
    >> You don't know what you are talking about.
    >>
    >> Wayne Sallee
    >> Wayne's Pets
    >> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>
    >>
    >> Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/31/2006 8:13 PM:
    >>> Even if they did write down everything at the moment, the Catholic Popes
    >>> of the time changed those writings to their liking and eliminated crucial
    >>> information to fit the beliefs of that church. They even changed the 10
    >>> Commandments. Those are the bibles that protestants used later.
    >>> iy
    >>> "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message
    >>> news:l%pzg.28409$ZH1.9289@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    >>>> You still have the issue that they were verbal stories passed down
    >>>> before they were written down. Hence the "telephone game" syndrome
    >>>> that could occur.
    >>>>
    >>>> Inabón Yunes wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> It gets even worst!
    >>>>> The "originals" were actually written in Greek which, at the time, was
    >>>>> the official written language. Or they use they Greek alphabets.
    >>>>> Remember, Paul to mention one, was a Roman...
    >>>>> iy
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> Ric Seyler
    >>>> Online Racing: RicSeyler
    >>>> GPL Handicap 6.35
    >>>> ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net
    >>>> http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler
    >>>> remove –SPAM- from email address
    >>>> --------------------------------------
    >>>> "Homer no function beer well without."
    >>>> - H.J. Simpson

    >
     
    Wayne Sallee, Aug 2, 2006
    #98
  19. I understand, that is the same answer that the clergy gave Galileo and he
    was right.
    Coming from you is an acceptance!
    It is troublesome for your narrow mind but, guess what?
    The whole word knows it. I guess you are in the same boat with the Taliban.
    iy
    "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    news:44D029EA.2040302@WayneSallee.com...
    > That's nonsense.
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > Wayne's Pets
    > Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >
    >
    > Inabón Yunes wrote on 8/1/2006 10:50 PM:
    >> No thanks Wayne, the only one here with that title is you.
    >> Did the catholic popes change the bible? yes
    >> Did the catholic popes create the current calendar? yes
    >> Did the catholic popes discart books written by those who knew Jesus? yes
    >> Did the catholic popes change the first commandment? yes
    >> Whatever they did to the bible is hidden in the Vatican tunnels.
    >> Those versions of the New Testament are forever changed. They couldn't
    >> change the Old Testament because it was controlled by the Jews. But the
    >> New Testament is another story. Every single christian during that time
    >> was catholic and took their word for it.
    >> Lucky for guys that belief in the bible as the word of God the Dead Sea
    >> Scrools were found and tell of a different story.
    >> iy
    >> "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    >> news:44CEA35E.4030704@WayneSallee.com...
    >>> You don't know what you are talking about.
    >>>
    >>> Wayne Sallee
    >>> Wayne's Pets
    >>> Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Inabón Yunes wrote on 7/31/2006 8:13 PM:
    >>>> Even if they did write down everything at the moment, the Catholic
    >>>> Popes of the time changed those writings to their liking and eliminated
    >>>> crucial information to fit the beliefs of that church. They even
    >>>> changed the 10 Commandments. Those are the bibles that protestants
    >>>> used later.
    >>>> iy
    >>>> "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message
    >>>> news:l%pzg.28409$ZH1.9289@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
    >>>>> You still have the issue that they were verbal stories passed down
    >>>>> before they were written down. Hence the "telephone game" syndrome
    >>>>> that could occur.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Inabón Yunes wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> It gets even worst!
    >>>>>> The "originals" were actually written in Greek which, at the time,
    >>>>>> was the official written language. Or they use they Greek alphabets.
    >>>>>> Remember, Paul to mention one, was a Roman...
    >>>>>> iy
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> Ric Seyler
    >>>>> Online Racing: RicSeyler
    >>>>> GPL Handicap 6.35
    >>>>> ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net
    >>>>> http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler
    >>>>> remove –SPAM- from email address
    >>>>> --------------------------------------
    >>>>> "Homer no function beer well without."
    >>>>> - H.J. Simpson

    >>
     
    Inabón Yunes, Aug 3, 2006
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  20. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    "Inabón Yunes" <InabónYunes@Naboria.com> wrote in message news:LLaAg.18084$48.2543@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
    > I understand, that is the same answer that the clergy gave Galileo and he was right.
    > Coming from you is an acceptance!
    > It is troublesome for your narrow mind but, guess what?
    > The whole word knows it. I guess you are in the same boat with the Taliban.
    > iy


    You are rambling :)
    This is what Wayne told me, he will tell you the same thing soon :))
     
    Pszemol, Aug 9, 2006
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