My poor fishies

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Nadia Nassar, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. Nadia Nassar

    Nadia Nassar

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2013
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    So about three weeks ago my husband and I went out and bought a new anemone, and a new fire fish to add to our 20 gallon tank. Over the last couple of days 3 of our 4 fish have died and the last is on it's way out. We believe it to be ick. How did this happend? Any ideas. We do weekly water changes and have never had an issue with anything. We recently got new lights as well but I don't think that would have caused all of our fish to get sick and die.
    I'm so bummed right now. Any thoughts?
    Nadia
     
    Nadia Nassar, Oct 7, 2013
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. Nadia Nassar

    Mr.Diggler Smitten with Sookie

    Joined:
    May 23, 2011
    Messages:
    454
    Likes Received:
    37
    Location:
    Athens, GA.
    List your water parameters, please.
     
    Mr.Diggler, Oct 7, 2013
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. Nadia Nassar

    SarahSmile :)

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,681
    Likes Received:
    230
    Location:
    Tropical Ohio
    I'm sorry for your fish losses :(
    4 fish is a lot for a 20 gallon tank. 1 + Diggler, water parameters are needed and we need to know what you have living in the tank (or did) how long the tank has been set up, what kind of anemone, etc. Why do you believe it to be ich? Do you have pictures?
     
    SarahSmile, Oct 7, 2013
    #3
  4. Nadia Nassar

    mariobrothersleeve squirrel

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Messages:
    2,219
    Likes Received:
    580
    No need to list, what happens is you put another fish in and the other fish got stressed causing the outbreak of ich. Ich exist in my tank, im for sure, and its part of buying fish is that risk.
    I run a uv sterilizer; not saying it is a prevent all; to kill the 3rd stage of the ichs life, to help. It also kill bacteria at a certain flow. That said, theres also a medic tank you can purchase to do hypo, but in most cases they eradicate it by themselves. I highly doubt it was only 2 weeks in your tank to kill a fish, since the first stage takes longer. Sorry for your loss, no one likes when are pests die. :-(
     
    mariobrothersleeve, Oct 7, 2013
    #4
  5. Nadia Nassar

    SarahSmile :)

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Messages:
    1,681
    Likes Received:
    230
    Location:
    Tropical Ohio
    There is always a need to list parameters. That is the protocol on this site. There is even a sticky about it. We can then troubleshoot the situation in an educated and informed manner AND help spot any additional problems.
     
    Last edited: Oct 7, 2013
    SarahSmile, Oct 7, 2013
    #5
    ErinCahir likes this.
  6. Nadia Nassar

    mariobrothersleeve squirrel

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Messages:
    2,219
    Likes Received:
    580
    Yea, i seen the sticky. Only if they put honest #'s. Who is honestly gonna put bad stats on here? Then we say, to many fish, stress, and all fish have a life cycle or it was sick when you got it, just didnt show.
    Before asking a question, one would self check their parameters. Js
     
    mariobrothersleeve, Oct 7, 2013
    #6
  7. Nadia Nassar

    Sakura2282 Reef lover!!!

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2013
    Messages:
    1,103
    Likes Received:
    277
    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI
    I'm sorry for your fish losses. That must be an awful feeling. But I agree with Mario there were too many fish for the 20 gallon tank, you shouldn't have more than two fish in there. They probably got under to much stress after the fire fish was added and got sick. Now that you only have one left don't forget to not overstock your tank. If you want more fish you can always upgrade your tank size to have more.
     
    Sakura2282, Oct 7, 2013
    #7
  8. Nadia Nassar

    wontonflip I failed Kobayashi Maru

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2008
    Messages:
    10,437
    Likes Received:
    973
    Location:
    VA USA
    +1 all of the points, plus, how's the anemone doing? Did you acclimate it properly? A dying nem will release toxins and kill tank inhabitants, too.
     
    wontonflip, Oct 7, 2013
    #8
  9. Nadia Nassar

    Aquarian

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2013
    Messages:
    2,828
    Likes Received:
    1,206
    Location:
    Connecticut USA
    Only people who truly want help and want to be successful in this hobby.
     
    Aquarian, Oct 8, 2013
    #9
  10. Nadia Nassar

    Marinne13 Northern Reefer

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    Great Falls, MT
    did you see white spots? ich is brought on by stress which is a result of adding a new tank inhabitant in such a small footprint, like everyone has said, 4 fish in a 20G is WAY overstocked
     
    Marinne13, Oct 8, 2013
    #10
  11. Nadia Nassar

    Washburn82

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2011
    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    219
    Location:
    ontario canada
    I hey everyone. This is actually my tank that Nadia is talking about . she was trying to be helpful by asking for me while I was at work. If you refer to my 20 gallon long page there is more info on what happened and parameters. And yes they are accurate params, why lie about it. Can't get accurate help if you lie. Also I disagree with the overstocking, I have had 4 fish in my tank since the beginning and they have been fine. No aggression no wild parameter swings I only recently lost my first fish to me moving. I know everyone follows the 1 fish per 10 gallon rule. But if there is no aggression and you take care of your water quality I don't see the issue. All my fish are very small as well I would never throw like a tang in there. I monitor my water weekly and my params are always within tolerance even with 4 fish. The Anemone is great Btw. Looks amazing fully blown up and eating a lot. :)
     
    Washburn82, Oct 8, 2013
    #11
  12. Nadia Nassar

    mariobrothersleeve squirrel

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2012
    Messages:
    2,219
    Likes Received:
    580
    Their going to make their own decisions, shame shame on 4 fish! In the last year, ive not seen one parameter that far off.
     
    mariobrothersleeve, Oct 8, 2013
    #12
  13. Nadia Nassar

    Marinne13 Northern Reefer

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    150
    Location:
    Great Falls, MT
    I am thinking maybe that fire fish was sick??
     
    Marinne13, Oct 8, 2013
    #13
  14. Nadia Nassar

    Washburn82

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2011
    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    219
    Location:
    ontario canada
    That was our initial guess as well. He didn't show any signs for the first 3 weeks of sickness or stress. Got a long great with the other fish and ate plenty. But who knows. So many variables.
     
    Washburn82, Oct 8, 2013
    #14
  15. Nadia Nassar

    jahel318

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2012
    Messages:
    250
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Florida
    did u quarantine the new fish before introducing? I had the same prob last month. My mistake was introducing a new fish without doing the quarantine first and 4 of my fish got the ich. By the time I realized it...it was already too late and they died
     
    jahel318, Oct 8, 2013
    #15
  16. Nadia Nassar

    Washburn82

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2011
    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    219
    Location:
    ontario canada
    No I did not quarantine it. Mistake on my part. I need to break down and purchase a spare tank for that
     
    Washburn82, Oct 8, 2013
    #16
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.