new to reef aquariums - few questions help please! :(

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    charmanderzor

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    my question is:

    1) there are so many freakin filters and different styles im so confused on which one to buy, can u tell me the basics of all the filters there are in a easy way please, and which 1 is best? i been reading many of peoples post on yahoo answers, and i notice many skip having a filter if someone has a protein skimmer why? do u need a filter if u have a protein skimmer? how many filters should a 15-20g reef tank have? can u try to tell me about what types of filters there are in a super easy way and which one is best cause some of these sites i read r so freakin confusing i dunno what they r talking about lol ( #1 is most important question))) ;o

    2) okay i read something about a sump and now i really want one but it looks so hard 2 put together and stuff. sumps r used to hide all ur stuff right and make ur main tank on top look cool. like it hides ur heater, skimmer, filter, etc. if i have a sump, do i need a filter on top of my main tank? or i can filter my water with the sump n no need for filter on my main tank. im kinda confuse, if u have a sump do u even need a filter?

    3) how exactly do sumps work? from what i see and learned from yt vids. i think that sump takes water from like a tray in ur main tank called like a overflow or something, then it goes down a pipe thingy into the sump, then the first stage of the sump is like dirty water and the protein skimmer takes the water n cleans it, then it drops into a second stage where the water kinda drops into this hole thingy into a third stage where it goes back into the tank lol. how do sumps work exactly? i want one so bad but i think im too dumb to build one etc, like getting the pipes required, and making all the valves etc looks so hard. ._.

    4) how many fishes will a 15-20g reef tank hold? i reallyreally want a nemo fish, a dorthy fish, those shrimp ones, and something called a mandarin fish cause it looks so k00l like a weird pokemon or something lol.... i no i want some corals, i want a anemone for my nemo fish to live in but i heard anemones r different from corals cause they move n sting stuff so im scared to get a anemone now, but i read that some nemo fish will host to a coral but its rare im hoping that will happen? cause i might not get a anemone cause they will sting n kill everything

    5) changing water question - okay, so i read that u change ur water every 2-3 weeks, u take like 25% out, u can use tap but make sure 2 use decholornator, do u add some salt to ur new water b4 putting it in since ur taking some water out? cause if u take 25% water out every 2-3 weeks and dont add salt in ur new water eventually there will be no salt right??

    6) okay sand question - ok i no i wont be using like coral gravel or something cause it looks kinda ugly i wanna use like live sand/white sand stuff it looks cool. when u first buy the live sand/sand how do u clean it? do u just rinse with like water or theres like a special process? later on in the months to come, when my reef tank is set how do u clean ur sand?

    7) what's a fuge?

    wow! i asked so many questions lol i hope someone who knows a thing or two about reef tank though answers id reallyreally aprpeciate it =D i just realize how happy all this reef tank stuff makes me if i get this started ill be reallyreally happy and i think this is gonna be my new hobby. i ordered new beginner books and everything, been reading lots of guides online and watching yt vids ;o anyways thanks so much for reading, and if u have any other advice u can feel free to leave it here. =D
     
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    ltljoker The Great Tang Herder

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    So first off a sump is a useful thing, even when you have a sump you will still need some sort of a filter. Hang on back filter, canister filters, are a couple of them. As to how many fish you can have most likely 3 or 4 is about all your going to get in a 55, at most 5 small fish. If your refering to a dori fih (the blue fish from Nemo) then you wont have it long cause they grow fast. A anemone will move around but wont do much damage cause usually it will find itself a home and stay put. But i wouldnt recommend an anemone for atleast a year in a new tank. A mandarine wont survive unless you have a refugeum cause they like copapods and most tanks wont have them without a fuge. Unless it is eating mysis shrimp. Water changes are essential to a saltwater tank and yes you will nee to add salt everytime you take water out of yours. Hope this helps out.Goodluck:Cheers:
     
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    hope htis helps. For books, read robert fenner's "the conscientous marine aquarist".
     
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    +1 Captain Janeway
     
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    Tankedchemist has covered everything very well. BTW welcome to the forum.
     
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    shudap freak... :grumble::grumble::grumble::grumble:
     
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    ltljoker The Great Tang Herder

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    Damn girl dont you ever sleep:shock:
     
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    I slept from 6 AM until about 11, then went to work. now i'm here raising hell again. :)

    I so do not look like cpt janeway...
     
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    dcantucson

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    We'll be the judge of that. Do you have a Red Shirt? :lol:
     
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    ltljoker The Great Tang Herder

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    maybe capt pickard:mrgreen: no you definatley look like capt spock[​IMG]
     
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    tankedchemist

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    I don't own any red shirts at all. red makes me look sick.
     
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    wontonflip I failed Kobayashi Maru

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    Way to muck up the newbie's thread! LOL

    Welcome to the site :D Glad you made it here! (he saw my youtube videos, and I referred him here so he can get more detailed answers :D)

    They got you covered! Just ask away. Everyone here will help. If you really want a Dory fish, then I suggest you hit up Craigslist for a good deal on a tank that's at least 75g. I started out with a 45g...that was a year ago...now I broke that down, and set up a 125g and have more choices in fish.
     
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    I would second almost everything tankedchemist has said and add that going bigger - upfront - will be far better, I promise.

    I started with a 30g BioCube thinking it would be easy and fun and it wasn't. Smaller tanks give you less room for error and make it harder to enjoy the hobby. One fish dying in a 30gallon has detrimental impact as opposed to a fish dying in 90g+.

    A sump will help 'expand' your display tanks 'capacity' but I would still be careful and not necessarily use it as a means to an end for simply having more fish.

    Lighting will play a role in determing what kind of tank you want to setup with specific types of corals. I also didn't realize, at first, that many of the things you see at a fish store come from different regions, so their needs are differing - but your tank only provides a single environment - always check to make sure things 'play well' with one another.

    Also charmanderzor, the one thing that everyone has taught me here is patience - it took eight months before things in my BioCube started calming down to where tests were consistent, a routine was easy to get into and I wasn't seeing crashes or unexpected die-offs and corals are finally growing.

    Lastly, I would invest heavily in the Forum Search functions - there are great stickies and posts on new tank startups, headaches, tips and tricks and more that are covered by people that have been in this hobby 15+ years; those have been most helpful to me as well.
     
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    Sharkie The Damsel Defender

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    welcome to the forum :) Tanked has you covered.

    as far as nanos go, I have 2. a 10 gallon and a 20 gallon. I'd suggest only ONE or TWO small fish (such as a clown fish ((nemo)) or damsel) and nothing more.... I'm kinda a rule breaker so don't follow my example of over-stocking (my big tanked died... long story) such a tiny tank.

    The require really freaquent water changes, so if you aren't willing to put a lot of time and effort into maintaining something like a 15-20 gallon (basically anything under a 45 is considered a nano), go bigger. The bigger the tank the easier they are to do.


    if you wanna be super crazy though, you could get yourself a baby eel ;) I have 2 and i LOOOOVE them :)
     
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