Not a good fish to keep in tank

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    I just heard about that! Nope, but it would be fun owning a tank that big. Just think of how many corals you could own.
     
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    motorcyclereefer I am Graffiti Petey

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    But seriously, that is so sad! I would hate being at a show and have that happen. But it shows that animals are still wild.
     
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    I read about that too. Sad, but accidents are inevitable when working with wild animals. It's a trade-off. Creatures like that will never be 100% domesticated. At least, not in our lifetimes.
     
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    I saw a Orca show in Orlando once and suddenly the orcas stopped doing what they were supposed to do during the show. One of the trainers came out and explained that one of the females was on her period and that caused all the other orcas to act wild. You're dealing with nature and with powerful creatures that have a killer instinct. Other large, trained predators have been known to do the same thing.
     
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    It's all that's been on the radio here in Orlando. The thing about it is that the same whale has killed before. A few years back they found a body at the bottom of its tank. Someone trespassed on the property and I guess felt like swimming with a whale.

    It is a sad thing, but like what's been stated they're wild animals. And come on, wtf do you expect when your sitting on the edge of their tank, one leg in the water, and your wearing a wet suit that makes you look like a seal........ :death:
     
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    wontonflip I failed Kobayashi Maru

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    Yeah, can't really blame the whale or punish it. In the end, it really has no place in captivity. And honestly, I'm sure the trainers at the park know what they're in for when they take the job. At least, I would HOPE they do. The whale just does what it does as part of its nature. And if he is going nuts in captivity, all the more reason they have no place there. I won't say I would never watch a show...but you can't get pissed at it either, if it ate me :)
     
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    An animal that big does what it wants when it wants.
    "Training" Orcas is a lot like bull riding.You do it enough,something bad is eventually gonna happen.
     
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    One of the saddest videos I ever saw was a video taken at a circus. These elephants were performing, and one of them went berserk all of a sudden and started trying to escape, trampling over people, etc. It got out of the circus and the person with the camera continued filming as it ran down the street. The circus personnel didn't have any way to humanely control the elephant, so they all got out their rifles. The elephant was pinned up against a truck, and it took 40+ shots to the face before the elephant finally went down. And the whole thing was caught on film. I was horrified. The look in this elephant's eyes as it was dying was indescribable...

    I am very much against making wild animals "perform" for the amusement of people. That's no way to treat such majestic creatures. They are deserving of our respect and shouldn't be treated as toys. Ever since I have been able to make decisions for myself, I have refused to attend circuses and shows that use wild animals for entertainment because of this.

    You can't honestly say that people are able to keep an orca healthy and happy contained in such a small area for its entire life. That's worse than keeping a tang in a 10 gallon tank. The only time I feel it's okay to have these types of animals in captivity is if they have been injured or something, and they are unable to be rehabilitated and released back into the wild. But keeping healthy, functioning wild animals confined like that is just cruel to me.
     
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    these places are also a reason while the Japanese hunt whales. After they catch them, they auction them off to the highest bidder (seaworld included) and the whales and dolphins that dont get sold, get slaughtered for meat and other nonsense. Buying seaworld tickets = supporting the japansese whalers.
     
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    SeaWorld in Orlando breed their whales. I don't believe they buy from the Japanese. I could be wrong but on the Phillips File, a radio show, they had the head of the Marine SPCA on their show and they said that Orlando breed their whales. I think the whale was just as pissed as everyone else that they took away the free anheiser busch beer bar at the attraction. That's the only reason I went, get tanked and watch the sea lion and otter show. The whole "Believe" Shamu show is rediculous.
     
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    I don't think humanity will ever stop trying to control every single little thing they can. Maybe one day it will wake up and say hmmm maybe this just can't be controlled.
     
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    It does kind of question the morality of training wild animals for our amusement.

    ....and to some degree our very own hobby.
     
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    That trainer was from about 30 minutes away from my home. I just heard about it today. Terribly sad.
     
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    Despite how people feel about the captive use of these animals, or the breeding or any other moral issues with sea world, they use these animals for research and they promote conservation. They use ticket sales and the shows to provide the funding that's required to offset the cost of the research and conservation efforts they pursue. I too hate to see such majestic creatures taken from their natural habitat, but when I look at the greater good, I see a different picture and I understand why they do it and I have no problem supporting them by visiting their parks and viewing their shows. I think it's terribly sad that a trainer was killed and potentially even worse that it could have a negative impact on their efforts to protect these animals. I just hope that PETA or similar organizations dont use this as leverage to shut down a project that was doing great things for the marine world.
     
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    Wow...crazy reading!
     
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    wontonflip I failed Kobayashi Maru

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    LOL i got a lotta time on my hands ;) Part of the perils of working from home and making your own hours!
     
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    That whale is a known killer and has a violent past. I should be put down or placed into an exhibit tank only. This is the third person it has killed.

    Very sad for the trainer.
     
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    That whale was just following its wild instincts.And whose to say that it killed the trainer on purpose?How do we know that it wasnt just trying to play? I've seen cattle kill people that had raised them as pets.Not because the cow was being aggressive,but because of it size and power.
     
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