Octopus Startup Help

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    AlanR917

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    Hello everyone, I am starting up a saltwater tank to use with a Bimac octopus. I know that octopi are not for beginners, but I have had freshwater aquariums and have done a lot of research on saltwater, and would like to give saltwater a try. So I had a few questions:

    1) How much cured live rock will I need, and where can I get quality/cheap cured live rock?
    2) What is the best type of sand to use for an octo, or does it not matter?
    3) What kind of filtration would you use for an octopus, and where can I get it?
    4) What is the best live food for an octo, and what is the cheapest place to get this?
    5) Where is the best place to buy a lot of deionized/distilled water, and which is a better choice for mix with Instant Ocean?
    6) Will I need a sump, and what is the best brand and model?
    7) Will I need a refugium and what is the best brand and model?
    8) What sand depth should I aim for?

    Thank you for your time.
     
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    Neno reefs

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    If i were you i would set up 2 tanks, a big one for the main tank and then a smaller one. Just incase he inks the main tank you will always have a back up to move your otcto into.
     
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    Thank you for the reply. I have an extra 20 gallon tank laying around in my basement, but I'm not sure if it will be big enough, do you think it will work temporarily incase he inks or something, or does it need to be bigger?
     
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    Neno reefs

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    One of the best octopuses to get is the O. bimaculoides, I cant find a place where it says how large of a tank you need but... Stay away from some of the larger octos and never ever by a blue ring octopus, they can kill you very quickly.
    Also this is a great website for info on them. TONMO - The Octopus News Magazine Online?
     
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    I would think a 20g would work because he is only going to be in the 20g untill you do a WC and get the ink out of the main tank.(i could be wrong) But again it all depends on the type of octopus
     
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    I plan on getting the one you suggested, a Bimac, so he wont get very big.
     
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    If memory serves me correctly..... octos have a very short life span. So don't expect to keep one long term.
     
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    Welcome to the site! I have always wanted to keep one but they have such short life spans in the aquarium.
     
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    You probably want to buy your own RO/DI system to make your water instead of buying it. You will need it for top off regularly, like almost every other day so that you can keep the specific gravity stable. I am sure you know that the water evaporates but the salt doesn't.

    Making the tank and filtration escape proof is going to be your biggest priority. Be wary of cheap live rock, it can be more trouble than its worth.
     
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    I am aware that they have short lifespans, but I would still like to care for one.

    Where is the best place to get cured live rock? This site says that you can plop it in and get running in about 2-4 weeks: Prime Cured Live Rock&#153 from Aquarium Arts - the Living Reef Filter

    Do you think that making the water would be better?
    How does a RO/DI system work?

    Thank you!
     
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    Neno reefs

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    Yep they do have very short lifespans so max your only going to have your octopus for 1-2 years.

    Your going to have some problems with powerheads and filteration because they cant get there limbs chopped up by open-powerheads.
     
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    I get my live rock locally, but there are a lot of people who buy it online. They should have some recommendations for you.

    A RO/DI is a system that creates pure water by reverse osmosis and deionization. It basically lets you make your own distilled water at home.
     
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    What brand and model do you use for your RO/DI system?
     
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    I will be getting mine from bulk reef supply online. They will help you choose the one that is right for you, just email them.
     
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    And how long does this process usually take?
     
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    And how long does the filtration process take?
     
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    Neno reefs

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    Most RO system makes atleast 75g of water a day.


    I bought my live rock here Premium Fiji Live Rock South Seas Aquatics
    I thought it was great, but if you do buy from there order saturday or sunday so its shipped out on monday.
     
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    Awesome, I will check out the link you posted, it is cured, or will I have to cure the rock myself?
     
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    Its not cured.

    Others might disagree but i didn't cure it for my tank. Because think about it, you want ammonia in a new tank so it can cycle, so whats the point of cureing it if your tank has to cycle anyways.

    So if its a new tank you realy dont need to cure it.
     
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    Cycling a tank and curing live rock are the same thing ;)
     
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