Regal Tang disease

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Miguel, Jul 20, 2004.

  1. Miguel

    Miguel Guest

    Hello,

    Anyone know of a websites that discusses / gives info on diseases of the
    Regal Tang?
    I have one that appears as tho it has several "blotchs" almost like blisters
    all over it's body. Doesn't appear to be white spot ick tho...

    Thanx
    Miguel
     
    Miguel, Jul 20, 2004
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  2. Miguel

    Fishnut Guest

    On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:29:46 +0200, "Miguel" <classified@net.com>
    wrote:

    >Hello,
    >
    >Anyone know of a websites that discusses / gives info on diseases of the
    >Regal Tang?
    >I have one that appears as tho it has several "blotchs" almost like blisters
    >all over it's body. Doesn't appear to be white spot ick tho...
    >
    >Thanx
    >Miguel
    >

    Hello Miguel,

    As a start to the replies, as I'm sure there will be many more :

    a) check that the S.G. is not over 1.026
    b) ensure that there is "green" food for it to eat
    c) perhaps do a water-change if you have not made one in the last
    week.

    What colour are the blisters ? If water parameters, food etc. are not
    to the tangs liking, the patches will be lighter than normal, but with
    an improvement in conditions the colour reverts within minutes, in my
    experience.

    Treat the tang as a barometer of tank conditions, in that they will
    probably be the first to show problems arising.

    Best of luck with it, as they are one of the most beautiful
    reef-fishes IMO.

    Regards, Fishnut.
     
    Fishnut, Jul 21, 2004
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  3. Miguel

    Miguel Guest

    Fishnut,

    Thanx for the response.
    I've been keeping a close eye on the Regal to see if I can get a better view
    of the spots and they appear more and more like black spots. Their numbers
    seem to vary by day?
    I was away for ±3 weeks and had someone looking after the tank. Before I
    left a had a number of plants in the tank and the Regal was a new addition
    ±2 weeks before leaving. On return there was only a fraction of the plants
    left and these disappeared in the next few days. Have replaced some. I'm
    not too sure whether it's the Regal or the Pistol Shrimp I have that is
    attacking the plants so "efficiently".

    Would a cleaner shrimp help?

    Ciao
    Miguel


    "Fishnut" <fishnut.uk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
    news:eek:ehtf0dkmbep2k79iseph1iim9g820eors@4ax.com...
    > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:29:46 +0200, "Miguel" <classified@net.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Hello,
    > >
    > >Anyone know of a websites that discusses / gives info on diseases of the
    > >Regal Tang?
    > >I have one that appears as tho it has several "blotchs" almost like

    blisters
    > >all over it's body. Doesn't appear to be white spot ick tho...
    > >
    > >Thanx
    > >Miguel
    > >

    > Hello Miguel,
    >
    > As a start to the replies, as I'm sure there will be many more :
    >
    > a) check that the S.G. is not over 1.026
    > b) ensure that there is "green" food for it to eat
    > c) perhaps do a water-change if you have not made one in the last
    > week.
    >
    > What colour are the blisters ? If water parameters, food etc. are not
    > to the tangs liking, the patches will be lighter than normal, but with
    > an improvement in conditions the colour reverts within minutes, in my
    > experience.
    >
    > Treat the tang as a barometer of tank conditions, in that they will
    > probably be the first to show problems arising.
    >
    > Best of luck with it, as they are one of the most beautiful
    > reef-fishes IMO.
    >
    > Regards, Fishnut.
    >
     
    Miguel, Jul 22, 2004
    #3
  4. Miguel

    Fishnut Guest

    Miguel,

    I think that tangs attack the plants like a dog with a bone. They
    certainly will eat much of it though. I put caulerpa prolifera in a
    veg-clip and my regal and lemonpeel angel tear into it, until there is
    nothing left in the clip. I don't think it tastes very good, as the
    butterflies usually ignore it. Boil a few frozen peas, take the outer
    shell off. they normally enjoy those, mixed with prawns and any other
    sea-food you have. Freeze the remainder of the food for several meals.
    It is a good sign that it is eating. I will annoy many people now by
    suggesting that you mix garlic juice with the food, as if it is a
    parasite on the fish, or an intestinal problem, this is just the time
    when garlic will work best. Yes, O.K., I know that it has never been
    proven, but it seems to work. I have never kept discus cichlids, but
    people who do, apply garlic to the fishfood to eliminate intestinal
    worms etc. regularly especially wild-imports.

    A cleaner-shrimp may help, but it may be regarded as "dinner" by some
    of the other residents, especially when moulting.

    Regards, Fishnut.

    On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:36:58 +0200, "Miguel" <classified@net.com>
    wrote:

    >Fishnut,
    >
    >Thanx for the response.
    >I've been keeping a close eye on the Regal to see if I can get a better view
    >of the spots and they appear more and more like black spots. Their numbers
    >seem to vary by day?
    >I was away for ±3 weeks and had someone looking after the tank. Before I
    >left a had a number of plants in the tank and the Regal was a new addition
    >±2 weeks before leaving. On return there was only a fraction of the plants
    >left and these disappeared in the next few days. Have replaced some. I'm
    >not too sure whether it's the Regal or the Pistol Shrimp I have that is
    >attacking the plants so "efficiently".
    >
    >Would a cleaner shrimp help?
    >
    >Ciao
    >Miguel
    >
     
    Fishnut, Jul 22, 2004
    #4
  5. Miguel

    CapFusion Guest

    "Fishnut" <fishnut.uk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
    news:76a0g0ldj17h9ifem1s5lkst4tq0pbh10b@4ax.com...
    > Miguel,
    >
    > I think that tangs attack the plants like a dog with a bone. They
    > certainly will eat much of it though. I put caulerpa prolifera in a
    > veg-clip and my regal and lemonpeel angel tear into it, until there is
    > nothing left in the clip. I don't think it tastes very good, as the
    > butterflies usually ignore it. Boil a few frozen peas, take the outer
    > shell off. they normally enjoy those, mixed with prawns and any other
    > sea-food you have. Freeze the remainder of the food for several meals.
    > It is a good sign that it is eating. I will annoy many people now by
    > suggesting that you mix garlic juice with the food, as if it is a
    > parasite on the fish, or an intestinal problem, this is just the time
    > when garlic will work best. Yes, O.K., I know that it has never been
    > proven, but it seems to work. I have never kept discus cichlids, but
    > people who do, apply garlic to the fishfood to eliminate intestinal
    > worms etc. regularly especially wild-imports.
    >
    > A cleaner-shrimp may help, but it may be regarded as "dinner" by some
    > of the other residents, especially when moulting.
    >


    I do not see any problem feeding garlic juice, fish and human.

    CapFusion,...
     
    CapFusion, Jul 23, 2004
    #5
  6. Miguel

    Toni Guest

    "Fishnut" <fishnut.uk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
    news:76a0g0ldj17h9ifem1s5lkst4tq0pbh10b@4ax.com...
    > It is a good sign that it is eating. I will annoy many people now by
    > suggesting that you mix garlic juice with the food, as if it is a
    > parasite on the fish, or an intestinal problem, this is just the time
    > when garlic will work best. Yes, O.K., I know that it has never been
    > proven, but it seems to work. I have never kept discus cichlids, but
    > people who do, apply garlic to the fishfood to eliminate intestinal
    > worms etc. regularly especially wild-imports.



    If at all possible freshly crushed garlic is much, much more potent
    especially if fed withing about 15 minutes or so of the crushing. The
    allicin degrades fairly quickly after crushing- just mash it beyond mashed
    and soak the food in the goo right before feeding..


    --
    Toni
    http://www.cearbhaill.com/reef.htm
     
    Toni, Jul 23, 2004
    #6
  7. Miguel

    Miguel Guest

    Thank you for the info.
    It is certainly appreciated and I see there was agreement on your suggestion
    of the garlic. Will try it.

    It is very difficult to get a look at the marks on the Regal as it darts
    about the tank but it seems normal in terms of it's "liveliness" and
    appetite.
    The surface of the Regal appears to have black spots / patches more than
    anythang else. Closer to the mouth it appears like the "skin" is "popped"
    rather than spots. I may also just be seeing squit tho.

    For information, tank is a 55 gal running for 7 months now.

    Inhabitants are -

    Hermit Crabs x5 (These crabs all came from the beach and I need
    to return the two larger ones)
    Pistol Shrimp
    Banded Coral Shrimp
    Cleaner Shrimp
    Occelaris Clown x2
    Sailfin Tang
    Regal Tang
    Long Tentacle Anemone

    There are also a number of snails including a "cowrey" (spelling?).

    The cleaner shrimp was added today and I've seen it at the Sailfin Tang a
    lot already. Sailfin keeps looking for it. The Regal seems to be less
    "eager" but have noticed heading in the Cleaners direction but not seen any
    cleaning operations between the two.

    Nevertheless, let's try the garlic in the morning. I know I have some
    crushed garlic around...

    Ciao
    Miguel

    "Fishnut" <fishnut.uk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
    news:76a0g0ldj17h9ifem1s5lkst4tq0pbh10b@4ax.com...
    > Miguel,
    >
    > I think that tangs attack the plants like a dog with a bone. They
    > certainly will eat much of it though. I put caulerpa prolifera in a
    > veg-clip and my regal and lemonpeel angel tear into it, until there is
    > nothing left in the clip. I don't think it tastes very good, as the
    > butterflies usually ignore it. Boil a few frozen peas, take the outer
    > shell off. they normally enjoy those, mixed with prawns and any other
    > sea-food you have. Freeze the remainder of the food for several meals.
    > It is a good sign that it is eating. I will annoy many people now by
    > suggesting that you mix garlic juice with the food, as if it is a
    > parasite on the fish, or an intestinal problem, this is just the time
    > when garlic will work best. Yes, O.K., I know that it has never been
    > proven, but it seems to work. I have never kept discus cichlids, but
    > people who do, apply garlic to the fishfood to eliminate intestinal
    > worms etc. regularly especially wild-imports.
    >
    > A cleaner-shrimp may help, but it may be regarded as "dinner" by some
    > of the other residents, especially when moulting.
    >
    > Regards, Fishnut.
    >
    > On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:36:58 +0200, "Miguel" <classified@net.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Fishnut,
    > >
    > >Thanx for the response.
    > >I've been keeping a close eye on the Regal to see if I can get a better

    view
    > >of the spots and they appear more and more like black spots. Their

    numbers
    > >seem to vary by day?
    > >I was away for ±3 weeks and had someone looking after the tank. Before I
    > >left a had a number of plants in the tank and the Regal was a new

    addition
    > >±2 weeks before leaving. On return there was only a fraction of the

    plants
    > >left and these disappeared in the next few days. Have replaced some.

    I'm
    > >not too sure whether it's the Regal or the Pistol Shrimp I have that is
    > >attacking the plants so "efficiently".
    > >
    > >Would a cleaner shrimp help?
    > >
    > >Ciao
    > >Miguel
    > >

    >
     
    Miguel, Jul 24, 2004
    #7
  8. Miguel

    Toni Guest

    "Miguel" <classified@net.com> wrote in message
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    > It is very difficult to get a look at the marks on the Regal as it darts
    > about the tank but it seems normal in terms of it's "liveliness" and
    > appetite.



    Don't feel too bad.
    I've had a Regal in quarantine for 5 weeks now and haven't gotten a good
    look yet.
    It's an oddly fascinating yet completely *loopy* fish.


    --
    Toni
    http://www.cearbhaill.com/reef.htm
     
    Toni, Jul 25, 2004
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