removing coralline algae

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Captain Feedback, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. Hello;

    I'd like to remove the coralline algae from the side and back glass
    panels of my tank. The algae is growing in sheets which are only
    lightly attached to the glass, and scrape off easily.

    What I'm wondering is what will happen if I scrape it off and let it
    sit in the tank. Will it just break down gradually and be removed by
    my protein skimmer, or will it decompose and rapidly increase levels of
    harmful organics in my tank? Should I remove it manually? I'd say
    about 75% of the back glass is covered with it, and about 90% of my
    side panels (this is a 55 gal. tank).

    Thanks in advance.
     
    Captain Feedback, Jul 6, 2006
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    Patrick Guest

    Do you mind if I ask, Why would you want to remove coralline from your tank?
    I can possibly understand removing from the sides, if it really interferes
    with something, but why from the back pane? I can't wait until my new (four
    months old) tank starts to develope it, and am actually trying to encourage
    growth. Just being curious.

    Patrick


    "Captain Feedback" <dc2772@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1152144138.209341.258990@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    > Hello;
    >
    > I'd like to remove the coralline algae from the side and back glass
    > panels of my tank. The algae is growing in sheets which are only
    > lightly attached to the glass, and scrape off easily.
    >
    > What I'm wondering is what will happen if I scrape it off and let it
    > sit in the tank. Will it just break down gradually and be removed by
    > my protein skimmer, or will it decompose and rapidly increase levels of
    > harmful organics in my tank? Should I remove it manually? I'd say
    > about 75% of the back glass is covered with it, and about 90% of my
    > side panels (this is a 55 gal. tank).
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
     
    Patrick, Jul 6, 2006
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    Pszemol Guest

    "Captain Feedback" <dc2772@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1152144138.209341.258990@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    > I'd like to remove the coralline algae from the side and back glass
    > panels of my tank. The algae is growing in sheets which are only
    > lightly attached to the glass, and scrape off easily.
    >
    > What I'm wondering is what will happen if I scrape it off and let it
    > sit in the tank. Will it just break down gradually and be removed by
    > my protein skimmer, or will it decompose and rapidly increase levels of
    > harmful organics in my tank? Should I remove it manually? I'd say
    > about 75% of the back glass is covered with it, and about 90% of my
    > side panels (this is a 55 gal. tank).


    Do not worry about it... I woud pick up larger, unsight pieces or
    crumble them in my fingers but I would left the rest of scraping alone.

    They will naturally decompose releasing some nutrients into the
    water but this is not harmfull and we all do this for years...
    Calcium residue will eventualy crumble into fine sand particles.

    At least I do scrape them from front and side walls, leaving them
    growing untouched on the back - they create nice, natural background...
     
    Pszemol, Jul 6, 2006
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  4. Just personal preference ... I think it looks good on the rock, but
    think it looks ugly on the glass. Why would you want to leave it on
    the back pane?

    Patrick wrote:
    > Do you mind if I ask, Why would you want to remove coralline from your tank?
    > I can possibly understand removing from the sides, if it really interferes
    > with something, but why from the back pane? I can't wait until my new (four
    > months old) tank starts to develope it, and am actually trying to encourage
    > growth. Just being curious.
    >
    > Patrick
    >
    >
    > "Captain Feedback" <dc2772@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:1152144138.209341.258990@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    > > Hello;
    > >
    > > I'd like to remove the coralline algae from the side and back glass
    > > panels of my tank. The algae is growing in sheets which are only
    > > lightly attached to the glass, and scrape off easily.
    > >
    > > What I'm wondering is what will happen if I scrape it off and let it
    > > sit in the tank. Will it just break down gradually and be removed by
    > > my protein skimmer, or will it decompose and rapidly increase levels of
    > > harmful organics in my tank? Should I remove it manually? I'd say
    > > about 75% of the back glass is covered with it, and about 90% of my
    > > side panels (this is a 55 gal. tank).
    > >
    > > Thanks in advance.
    > >
     
    Captain Feedback, Jul 7, 2006
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    Cindy Guest

    * Captain Feedback wrote, On 7/7/2006 10:03 AM:
    > Just personal preference ... I think it looks good on the rock, but
    > think it looks ugly on the glass. Why would you want to leave it on
    > the back pane?


    I think it makes a pretty, natural background. Better than sheets of
    one color or those icky pictures you can buy in rolls.
     
    Cindy, Jul 7, 2006
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    Pszemol Guest

    "Cindy" <cinshep@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:08wrg.127462$dW3.101883@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
    >* Captain Feedback wrote, On 7/7/2006 10:03 AM:
    >> Just personal preference ... I think it looks good on the rock, but
    >> think it looks ugly on the glass. Why would you want to leave it on
    >> the back pane?

    >
    > I think it makes a pretty, natural background. Better than sheets of
    > one color or those icky pictures you can buy in rolls.


    .... or the view of tank plumbing behind your back wall :)

    I have the back wall of the tank painted black.
    But I am waiting for the coraline to cover it...
     
    Pszemol, Jul 7, 2006
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    Bryan Guest

    A pet store near me has an awesome show tank with no coralline on any of the
    glass. On my way out a month back I asked him how he does it. He said
    something to the effect that his multiple clams and other calcium absorbing
    species and rocks keep the glass clean for him. I need to go back and
    clarify but I thought I'd give you his info.

    Steve is the owner and the one I asked. Very nice guy. You may want to
    call him about his "show tank in the back without any coralline on the
    glass". Since I'm newer to aquariums you may get more out of his
    explanation than I did while walking out the door.

    http://www.horizonpetsandfishcom/ Austin, Tx so it's Central Time

    Bryan



    "Captain Feedback" <dc2772@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:1152284588.825286.311040@s53g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
    > Just personal preference ... I think it looks good on the rock, but
    > think it looks ugly on the glass. Why would you want to leave it on
    > the back pane?
    >
    > Patrick wrote:
    >> Do you mind if I ask, Why would you want to remove coralline from your
    >> tank?
    >> I can possibly understand removing from the sides, if it really
    >> interferes
    >> with something, but why from the back pane? I can't wait until my new
    >> (four
    >> months old) tank starts to develope it, and am actually trying to
    >> encourage
    >> growth. Just being curious.
    >>
    >> Patrick
    >>
    >>
    >> "Captain Feedback" <dc2772@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:1152144138.209341.258990@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
    >> > Hello;
    >> >
    >> > I'd like to remove the coralline algae from the side and back glass
    >> > panels of my tank. The algae is growing in sheets which are only
    >> > lightly attached to the glass, and scrape off easily.
    >> >
    >> > What I'm wondering is what will happen if I scrape it off and let it
    >> > sit in the tank. Will it just break down gradually and be removed by
    >> > my protein skimmer, or will it decompose and rapidly increase levels of
    >> > harmful organics in my tank? Should I remove it manually? I'd say
    >> > about 75% of the back glass is covered with it, and about 90% of my
    >> > side panels (this is a 55 gal. tank).
    >> >
    >> > Thanks in advance.
    >> >

    >
     
    Bryan, Jul 8, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 04:40:02 GMT, "Bryan" <bryan@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >A pet store near me has an awesome show tank with no coralline on any of the
    >glass. On my way out a month back I asked him how he does it. He said
    >something to the effect that his multiple clams and other calcium absorbing
    >species and rocks keep the glass clean for him. I need to go back and
    >clarify but I thought I'd give you his info.


    If you run a tank that is calcium deficient the corallines stop
    growing before the corals do. A lot of calcium users kept in a system
    with inadequate calcium addition will produce exactly this effect.
    There is detail on this in Delbeek and Sprung Vol 3.

    Steve
     
    Steve, Jul 8, 2006
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  9. Cindy wrote:
    > * Captain Feedback wrote, On 7/7/2006 10:03 AM:
    > > Just personal preference ... I think it looks good on the rock, but
    > > think it looks ugly on the glass. Why would you want to leave it on
    > > the back pane?

    >
    > I think it makes a pretty, natural background. Better than sheets of
    > one color or those icky pictures you can buy in rolls.


    I think fish look more natural with a color behind them which simulates
    the depth of the ocean, rather than a vertical wall of glass covered
    with coralline algae a few inches behind them, but to each his/her own.
    ;-)
     
    Captain Feedback, Jul 8, 2006
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  10. Cindy wrote:
    > * Captain Feedback wrote, On 7/7/2006 10:03 AM:
    > > Just personal preference ... I think it looks good on the rock, but
    > > think it looks ugly on the glass. Why would you want to leave it on
    > > the back pane?

    >
    > I think it makes a pretty, natural background. Better than sheets of
    > one color or those icky pictures you can buy in rolls.


    I think fish look more natural with a color behind them which simulates
    the depth of the ocean, rather than a vertical wall of coralline algae
    a few inches behind them, but to each his/her own.

    ;-)
     
    Captain Feedback, Jul 8, 2006
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    Xerces Guest

    Xerces, Jul 8, 2006
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    Bryan Guest

    His tank is actually very healthy. He doesn't have a jungle of corals but
    the ones he has placed are doing very well. I wish he had a pic of it on
    his site.

    B


    "Steve" <steve@deletethissjwilliams.com> wrote in message
    news:ctrua299ogko63qn5ccccm2ngq3dclmulu@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 04:40:02 GMT, "Bryan" <bryan@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >>A pet store near me has an awesome show tank with no coralline on any of
    >>the
    >>glass. On my way out a month back I asked him how he does it. He said
    >>something to the effect that his multiple clams and other calcium
    >>absorbing
    >>species and rocks keep the glass clean for him. I need to go back and
    >>clarify but I thought I'd give you his info.

    >
    > If you run a tank that is calcium deficient the corallines stop
    > growing before the corals do. A lot of calcium users kept in a system
    > with inadequate calcium addition will produce exactly this effect.
    > There is detail on this in Delbeek and Sprung Vol 3.
    >
    > Steve
     
    Bryan, Jul 8, 2006
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    Steve Guest

    On Sat, 08 Jul 2006 16:19:12 GMT, "Bryan" <bryan@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >His tank is actually very healthy. He doesn't have a jungle of corals but
    >the ones he has placed are doing very well. I wish he had a pic of it on
    >his site.
    >


    Yes the corals can be healthy and growing despite sub-optimal calcium,
    I've done this myself, and had tanks with corals doing OK despite no
    coralline at all. It just strikes me as a bit odd intentionally
    keeping SPS corals in water with less than sea water Ca
    concentrations, somehow I enjoy striving to replicate nature, and
    think it's a good general principle. And I wonder a little about what
    the margin of safety is in those tanks I suppose, how do you guarantee
    your Ca stays stable at that 300ish no coralline level, or just dives
    at some point, unless you have a buffer zone above minimum
    requirements. Maybe I'm taking a simplistic approach, I just see
    reefkeeping as trying to replicate NSW and maybe that's old-fashioned.
    Hey, I measured my Ca last night out of curiosity, 380, could do
    better IMHO. Acropora and a Tubastraea (that we recently brought back
    from near death ex dealer) look happy though, me I'd like to see 400
    in there if I do get in a numbers mood :).

    Steve
     
    Steve, Jul 8, 2006
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    Steven M Guest

    Steven M, Jul 8, 2006
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  15. Xerces wrote:
    > I like to keep the sides clear but love the yellow polyps on the back glass
    > of my tank
    >
    > http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3/xercesjpf/DSC01301.jpg
    >
    > Beats the heck out of those fugly pictures on a roll.


    I have a solid light blue background on my tank. If I decide I don't
    like it, I can always let the coralline algae take over again.
     
    Captain Feedback, Jul 10, 2006
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    it is good for the tank it helps inhibit bad alage growth
     
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    James you realize that this thread last posted on July 10, 2006 ?
     
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