saltwater reef equipment question

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    hello, I plan on setting up a 55 gallon reef that will be heavily stocked, but not overstocked with fish: heniochus butterfly, blue tang, ocellaris clownfish and picasso triggerfish. I will also have various soft corals and 45lbs of LR. knowing that the bio-load will be higher than the average reef, what will be all the necessary equipment for this kind of setup besides the tank itself; filtration, lighting.... I do have an idea of what I need but im still confused. THANKS!
     
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    oh wow hah. well im positive the butterfly and triggerfish wont work out because theyll grow much too large for a 55. plus typically triggers+coral=bad and if im not mistaken the same goes for butterflies. also the tang likely will be a disaster in that tank... the only tang you could really keep would be a yellow tang or a yellow eye kole but even those are not recommended.

    as for the equipment... for the filtration a sump setup is best which is a small tank under your main tank that is broken into sections for a protein skimmer [a necessity], and a refugium [an option but very very very good idea]. the refugium is a place away from predators where beneficial macro algae, live rock, and copepods can thrive. its best to set the lighting for your fuge to a schedule opposite that of your main tank... this is to balance the pH in your tank through out a 24 hour period. for light if you plan on keeping coral i would go with a minimum of a 4 bulb 48 inch t5 set up for a total of 216 watts. the light should be 50% actinic blue light and 50% daylight with a kelvin reading of 10,000-14,000. most fixtures come with the bulbs necessary. i think that just about covers it please fill anything in i missed guys.
     
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    oh and also welcome to the forum!
     
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    valasaraptor Proud ocelot owner!

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    ummn ive had a saltwater tank for like 3-4mo and he says he hes had 6yrs expeirence,again sorry for spelling,doesnt this remind u of sum1????? saltwaterking? and if it isnt him sorry for battering u and welcome to the site,any questions u have will be awnsered
     
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    valasaraptor Proud ocelot owner!

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    do your research first,it helps trust me,i did and everythings goin good so far lol
     
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    Thanks for taking the time for my questions! and I have one more question; since having a refugium in the sump is optional, will it work out with an eshopps reef sump with just a protein skimmer in it as filtration. thanks again.
     
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    completely and 100% totally agree and thought that exact thing as i answered

    but from me as well if your not then sorry
     
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    valasaraptor Proud ocelot owner!

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    yeah,all u really need for filtration is live rock,natural filter and the skimmer and you need powerheads or sumthing for flow
     
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    Yeah just using a protein skimmer will be fine. As long as you have live rock. As others have pointed out, the fish you have chosen are too large for a 55 and probably won't do well in a tank that size. If you have your heart set on those particular fish, then you will want to start out with a bigger tank.

    Welcome to the site!
     
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    valasaraptor Proud ocelot owner!

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    listen to biff almighty,p.s. she knows everything literally
     
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    ok,thanks, I had 6 years experience in freshwater, freshwater doesn't count?
     
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    No, freshwater is totally different... Almost nothing from freshwater applies to saltwater. :(

    In saltwater, the general rule of thumb for stocking is 1 inch of fish per 10 gallons. So in a 55 gallon tank, you are limited to 5 or 6 1-inch long fish. That rules out...most fish. If you like big fish like tangs and triggers, you really need a bigger tank. There are plenty of really nice small fish that do well in a 55, though. My first tank was a 55.

    Also, things take longer in saltwater. You can't just add a bunch of fish. It usually takes a month or two for your tank to initially cycle before you can put anything living in it. And after that, it's wise not to add more than 1 fish every 3 weeks.
     
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    valasaraptor Proud ocelot owner!

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    nope,completely different,sorry for battering u,look at saltwaterking posts and ull see y we were woundering lol,ive had fresh tanks since i can rembr but saltwater is nothing alike
     
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    Bifferwine I am a girl

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    You were wondering. I wasn't. :D
     
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    valasaraptor Proud ocelot owner!

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    dang i got ninja'ed lol firefish and purple firefish are really cool look em up my bet is ull like them
     
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    valasaraptor Proud ocelot owner!

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    cause ur biff,ALL MIGHTY,let me gess?u checked the I.P.
     
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    Yeah now quit hijacking his thread with discussion about other members, please. :)
     
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    i find fire fish are way to shy in my experiences after 2 weeks gone no where to be seen and all i have in my tank is a fire fish and 2 clowns lol
     
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    Like everyone else said the butterfly, trigger and tang are too large for a 55.

    Some people like to pick the fish they decide they *must* have and then design a tank around that.

    A lot of people use Live Aquaria as a quick reference guide as they have quite a few fish listed and it is relatively accurate.

    While you are researching pick up a copy of "The Conscientious Marine Aquarist" by Robert Fenner

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Conscientious-Marine-Aquarist-Commonsense-Professional/dp/1890087998/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281935745&sr=8-1-spell]Amazon.com: The Conscientious Marine Aquarist: A Commonsense Handbook for…[/ame]

    Many people consider it "The Bible" of salt water reef keeping and it's loaded with accurate and up to date advice

    Most of all; take it slow and ask advice.

    Welcome to the site!
     
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    + 1 Dakwan

    P3, Welcome to the site!

    Take Dakwan's advice and pick up that book. Read it from cover to cover before getting anything for your salt setup - it will save you headaches ;)
     
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