Southdown Tropical Play Sand

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Mort, Aug 22, 2003.

  1. Mort

    Mort Guest

    Hi all, I just wanted to make sure of this before I buy some sand for a DSB.

    I researched and found that many people recommend using the Southdown
    Tropical Playsand but you want to be sure to get the stuff that says "from
    the Caribbean"

    So far so good...

    I went to HD tonight and was going to buy some. I found exactly what I was
    looking for with all the right indications... EXCEPT that it says right on
    the bag, "Not recommended for traction or AQUARIUMS"

    So, I just wanted to make sure before I add this stuff.

    Is it the same sand everyone is talking about? Should I just ignore this
    warning?

    TIA

    ~Mort
     
    Mort, Aug 22, 2003
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. Mort

    Bob Parkins Guest

    Buy as much as you can!!! We can't even get it on the West Coast without a
    "hook-up."
    The reason for the warning is because the manufacturer and distributors have
    exclusive agreements (not sure of correct terminology). They mine it and
    sell in 2 directions. 1 goes to aquarium hobby and is marked WAY, WAY, WAY
    up. 2 goes to Southdown company (whatever their name is this week) and they
    are under contract NOT to sell to anyone who intends to use it for
    aquariums. I believe this is what is called the "free-market economy".....
    uhhh I don't think so. Some have been told this directly by either HD
    workers, or at the manufacturers/miners place in FL. Apparently if you
    inquire at HD you have to play the "game." It is for a sandbox. The HD
    "PLAYSAND" sold in my area (CA) is silica beach sand and has a cancer
    warning on it...... go figure. I guess this could be useful if ever
    questioned about why use such an obscure sand for sandbox. BTW, HD in CA
    has not only never heard of it but this region doesn't even do business with
    any distributor that carries it.... or at least that is what they told me.
    Have read the same from others close to here as well. From my research the
    SD at HD is EXACTLY the same with the possible exception of starting out a
    tad dustier. Buy some, and then buy some more, and then buy some for me!


    Mort <NOlordmort@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:5zg1b.11183$Ih1.4101789@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > Hi all, I just wanted to make sure of this before I buy some sand for a

    DSB.
    >
    > I researched and found that many people recommend using the Southdown
    > Tropical Playsand but you want to be sure to get the stuff that says "from
    > the Caribbean"
    >
    > So far so good...
    >
    > I went to HD tonight and was going to buy some. I found exactly what I

    was
    > looking for with all the right indications... EXCEPT that it says right

    on
    > the bag, "Not recommended for traction or AQUARIUMS"
    >
    > So, I just wanted to make sure before I add this stuff.
    >
    > Is it the same sand everyone is talking about? Should I just ignore this
    > warning?
    >
    > TIA
    >
    > ~Mort
    >
    >
    >
     
    Bob Parkins, Aug 22, 2003
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. Mort

    Pszemol Guest

    "Mort" <NOlordmort@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:5zg1b.11183$Ih1.4101789@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > I went to HD tonight and was going to buy some. I found exactly what I was
    > looking for with all the right indications... EXCEPT that it says right on
    > the bag, "Not recommended for traction or AQUARIUMS"


    Yes, this is the stuff...
    Where did you find it? What HD exactly? :)))
    I want some for my aquarium...
     
    Pszemol, Aug 22, 2003
    #3
  4. Mort

    Mort Guest

    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    news:bi4nbk.5c8.0@poczta.onet.pl...
    > "Mort" <NOlordmort@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message

    news:5zg1b.11183$Ih1.4101789@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > > I went to HD tonight and was going to buy some. I found exactly what I

    was
    > > looking for with all the right indications... EXCEPT that it says right

    on
    > > the bag, "Not recommended for traction or AQUARIUMS"

    >
    > Yes, this is the stuff...
    > Where did you find it? What HD exactly? :)))
    > I want some for my aquarium...


    Pszemol, you are in Chicago too arent you? I thought I read that in one of
    your posts.
    The HD I found it at DOES have about a skid of this stuff but they want
    $6.99 for a bag (pretty sure they were 40lb bags at that) which is kinda
    high from what I have read. But then again, I'm prolly paying for the
    shipping to get it here to the midwest.

    If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help some fellow hobbyists if they
    want to pay the shipping from chicago, I'll get it for you.

    Let me know.

    ~Mort
     
    Mort, Aug 22, 2003
    #4
  5. Mort

    Pszemol Guest

    "Mort" <mort2fragu@NOSPAMameritech.net> wrote in message news:XRp1b.11269$Ih1.4181307@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > Pszemol, you are in Chicago too arent you?
    > I thought I read that in one of your posts.


    Yes, I live in Chicago area. West suburbs not in the city.
    Places I checked out in my area had only ugly silica sand.

    > The HD I found it at DOES have about a skid of this stuff but they want
    > $6.99 for a bag (pretty sure they were 40lb bags at that) which is kinda
    > high from what I have read. But then again, I'm prolly paying for the
    > shipping to get it here to the midwest.


    What is the address of the HD you know for sure they have carribean sand?
    I checked 3 HD in suburbs with no results - do not want to drive over
    whole Chicago city to look for it... Please, provide me with detail loc.
    Thanks.
     
    Pszemol, Aug 22, 2003
    #5
  6. Mort

    Mort Guest

    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    news:bi4oia.5p4.0@poczta.onet.pl...
    > "Mort" <mort2fragu@NOSPAMameritech.net> wrote in message

    news:XRp1b.11269$Ih1.4181307@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > > Pszemol, you are in Chicago too arent you?
    > > I thought I read that in one of your posts.

    >
    > Yes, I live in Chicago area. West suburbs not in the city.
    > Places I checked out in my area had only ugly silica sand.
    >
    > > The HD I found it at DOES have about a skid of this stuff but they want
    > > $6.99 for a bag (pretty sure they were 40lb bags at that) which is kinda
    > > high from what I have read. But then again, I'm prolly paying for the
    > > shipping to get it here to the midwest.

    >
    > What is the address of the HD you know for sure they have carribean sand?
    > I checked 3 HD in suburbs with no results - do not want to drive over
    > whole Chicago city to look for it... Please, provide me with detail loc.
    > Thanks.



    Sure I will tell you. But you AND your aggresive responses will just have
    to wait till I go there and buy mine first! >=) =P

    Just kiddin!

    The HD is in Bedford Park on Cicero Ave about a mile East of Midway Airport.

    Which Suburb do you live in? I work in Bridgeview, if it is easier for you
    I can pick it up for you and you can get from me at work. I'll be here
    tomorrow from 8-noon.

    I'm going there right after work to get a few bags. So if you go there
    today, dont buy all of it okay?!?

    ~Mort
     
    Mort, Aug 22, 2003
    #6
  7. Mort

    Pszemol Guest

    "Mort" <mort2fragu@NOSPAMameritech.net> wrote in message news:zqq1b.11281$Ih1.4188019@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > Sure I will tell you. But you AND your aggresive responses will
    > just have to wait till I go there and buy mine first! >=) =P


    :)))

    > Just kiddin!


    I am affraid, The King wasn't kidding and he will put me
    as his peon into his dungeons for my aggressiveness :)

    > The HD is in Bedford Park on Cicero Ave about a mile East of Midway Airport.


    Thanks.

    > Which Suburb do you live in? I work in Bridgeview, if it is easier for you
    > I can pick it up for you and you can get from me at work. I'll be here
    > tomorrow from 8-noon.


    No, it is not on my way - thank you.

    > I'm going there right after work to get a few bags. So if you go there
    > today, dont buy all of it okay?!?


    Don't you worry, I need only a couple of bags, and I am not going to
    make it this week. I do not have the tank yet ready for the sand.
    Amasingly, the guy at HD in my town made big surprised eyes when I asked
    for Caribbean playsand - obviously he has never had one in his store.
    The only thing he could offer me to the sandbox was silica sand...
    One could think, that HD network would have same inventory in each store...
     
    Pszemol, Aug 22, 2003
    #7
  8. Marc Levenson, Aug 22, 2003
    #8
  9. Mort

    Pszemol Guest

    "Marc Levenson" <melev@swbell.net> wrote in message news:3F4677C6.42ED2F9@swbell.net...
    > We've got a local vendor now in our area that carries Southdown at $15 a bag.
    > Still better than half the LFS price, plus more sand per bag. Cleburne Marine.


    Mort has found $6.99 a bag at HD and he is complaining it is too much :))

    I was disappointed by the prices of coral sand at LFS and DSB was out of the question
    if I had to pay this much. $6.99 a bag is much, much better to consider DSB again.

    But how to add DSB to a working tank after it has been working fine for almost
    2 years? Is it technicaly doable at all? I can easily take out all rockwork - rocks
    are not attached to each other and I do not have too much coral yet, but would
    you recommend adding huge amount of "fresh" sand to the working system or not?
    It sounds scarry - I am afraid the sand will have a lot of impurities and it will harm
    the fish, mushrooms, polips I have when they have to ingest/inhale sand particles
    over the couple days period when the sand will finally settle down.

    BTW - is there any calculator to tell me how much sand do I need to add to
    my 30g tank to make 4" thick DSB? The surface of the tank is 36"x12".
    Right now I have about 1/2" of a very well crushed coral sand, sugar like particles.
     
    Pszemol, Aug 22, 2003
    #9
  10. Mort

    Mort Guest

    "Marc Levenson" <melev@swbell.net> wrote in message
    news:3F46777B.3E6B41B7@swbell.net...
    >
    >
    > Mort wrote:
    >
    > > Sure I will tell you. But you AND your aggresive responses will just

    have
    > > to wait till I go there and buy mine first! >=) =P

    >
    > You tell 'im Mort!!! <big ass grin>
    >
    > King Marc
    >



    LoL!
     
    Mort, Aug 23, 2003
    #10
  11. Mort

    Boo Guest

    Pszemol wrote:
    > But how to add DSB to a working tank after it has been working fine for almost
    > 2 years? Is it technicaly doable at all?


    One possible alternative might be to add it to a refugium or external
    sump instead ?


    --
    Boo
     
    Boo, Aug 23, 2003
    #11
  12. Mort

    Hawgman Guest

    I have been meaning to ask CM over on DFWMAS how large the bags are. Do you
    know by chance?

    "Marc Levenson" <melev@swbell.net> wrote in message
    news:3F4677C6.42ED2F9@swbell.net...
    > We've got a local vendor now in our area that carries Southdown at $15 a

    bag. Still better than half the LFS price,
    > plus more sand per bag. Cleburne Marine.
    >
    > Marc
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
    > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
    > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
    >
    >
     
    Hawgman, Aug 23, 2003
    #12
  13. Mort

    Mort Guest

    "Hawgman" <hairy@ballsack.net> wrote in message
    news:z6K1b.236181$uu5.45520@sccrnsc04...
    > I have been meaning to ask CM over on DFWMAS how large the bags are. Do

    you
    > know by chance?


    I picked 4 of them up last night. It turns out they ARE 50lb bags, It's
    just whoever wrote the sign can't read very well.
    Physically they are approximately 24"L x 12"W x 3"H

    HTH

    ~Mort
     
    Mort, Aug 23, 2003
    #13
  14. Mort

    Mort Guest

    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    news:bi80rv$jcp$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
    > "Mort" <LordMort@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message

    news:FqK1b.11614$Ih1.4425291@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > > "Hawgman" <hairy@ballsack.net> wrote in message
    > > news:z6K1b.236181$uu5.45520@sccrnsc04...
    > > > I have been meaning to ask CM over on DFWMAS how large the bags are.
    > > > Do you know by chance?

    > >
    > > I picked 4 of them up last night. It turns out they ARE 50lb bags,
    > > It's just whoever wrote the sign can't read very well.
    > > Physically they are approximately 24"L x 12"W x 3"H

    >
    > Are you talking about Cleburne Marine or Home Depot sand?
    >


    Ummm, neither? I was talking about the Southdown Tropical Playsand....
    Hence the name of the topic!!! (Was that aggressive enouigh for you =P)

    Actually, I am not sure I am understanding the question(s) right...

    ~Mort
     
    Mort, Aug 23, 2003
    #14
  15. 50 lbs bags.

    Marc


    Hawgman wrote:

    > I have been meaning to ask CM over on DFWMAS how large the bags are. Do you
    > know by chance?
    >
    > "Marc Levenson" <melev@swbell.net> wrote in message
    > news:3F4677C6.42ED2F9@swbell.net...
    > > We've got a local vendor now in our area that carries Southdown at $15 a

    > bag. Still better than half the LFS price,
    > > plus more sand per bag. Cleburne Marine.
    > >
    > > Marc
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
    > > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
    > > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
    > >
    > >


    --
    Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
    Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
    Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
     
    Marc Levenson, Aug 23, 2003
    #15
  16. Mort

    Mort Guest

    "Pszemol" <Pszemol@PolBox.com> wrote in message
    news:bi8504$3o2$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
    > "Mort" <LordMort@NOSPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message

    news:6mM1b.11649$Ih1.4451789@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > > > > I picked 4 of them up last night. It turns out they ARE 50lb bags,
    > > > > It's just whoever wrote the sign can't read very well.
    > > > > Physically they are approximately 24"L x 12"W x 3"H
    > > >
    > > > Are you talking about Cleburne Marine or Home Depot sand?

    > >
    > > Ummm, neither? I was talking about the Southdown Tropical Playsand....
    > > Hence the name of the topic!!! (Was that aggressive enouigh for you =P)
    > >
    > > Actually, I am not sure I am understanding the question(s) right...

    >
    > I can see that.
    > You said that you found that sand at Home Depot $6,99/bag.
    > Marc and Hawgman were talking about Cleburne Marine $15/bag...


    Thanks for clearing that up ;)
     
    Mort, Aug 23, 2003
    #16
  17. Mort

    Mort Guest

    Maybe this was covered somewhere but I couldnt find this exactly so here
    goes....


    I am in the process of filling my tank with SW finally.

    I added my sand and used a bowl to put the water in so it would overflow
    into the tank and not stir all kinds of stuff up.

    Now, I was expecting some cloudiness but holy cow! My tank looks like a
    milk shake. Actually its more like horchata or rice water.

    What concerns me though is this foam on top. Its pretty thick and there is
    a lot of it. Should I try getting it to dissolve back in to the water or
    should I skim it?

    FTM I am letting a power head circulate the water as it is not yet high
    enough to run the sump. So it should dissolve on its own hopefully...

    ~Mort
     
    Mort, Aug 24, 2003
    #17
  18. I would scoop off the foam with a large spoon or ladle. If you'll add your LR,
    it will clear up more quickly (as in 24 hours instead of 3 or 4 days).

    Marc


    Mort wrote:

    > Maybe this was covered somewhere but I couldnt find this exactly so here
    > goes....
    >
    > I am in the process of filling my tank with SW finally.
    >
    > I added my sand and used a bowl to put the water in so it would overflow
    > into the tank and not stir all kinds of stuff up.
    >
    > Now, I was expecting some cloudiness but holy cow! My tank looks like a
    > milk shake. Actually its more like horchata or rice water.
    >
    > What concerns me though is this foam on top. Its pretty thick and there is
    > a lot of it. Should I try getting it to dissolve back in to the water or
    > should I skim it?
    >
    > FTM I am letting a power head circulate the water as it is not yet high
    > enough to run the sump. So it should dissolve on its own hopefully...
    >
    > ~Mort


    --
    Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
    Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
    Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
     
    Marc Levenson, Aug 24, 2003
    #18
  19. Mort

    Mort Guest

    "Mort" <NOlordmort@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote in message
    news:p0X1b.14873$Ih1.4583231@newssrv26.news.prodigy.com...
    > Maybe this was covered somewhere but I couldnt find this exactly so here
    > goes....
    >
    >
    > I am in the process of filling my tank with SW finally.
    >
    > I added my sand and used a bowl to put the water in so it would overflow
    > into the tank and not stir all kinds of stuff up.
    >
    > Now, I was expecting some cloudiness but holy cow! My tank looks like a
    > milk shake. Actually its more like horchata or rice water.
    >
    > What concerns me though is this foam on top. Its pretty thick and there

    is
    > a lot of it. Should I try getting it to dissolve back in to the water or
    > should I skim it?
    >
    > FTM I am letting a power head circulate the water as it is not yet high
    > enough to run the sump. So it should dissolve on its own hopefully...
    >
    > ~Mort
    >
    >
    >


    I put a few pics on alt.binaries.aquaria if anyone would like to take a
    look.
    Its under Rice Water

    Thanks

    Mort
     
    Mort, Aug 24, 2003
    #19
  20. Mort

    Pszemol Guest

    "Boo" <boo@spam_me_no_spam.net> wrote in message news:bi8hc8$ual$2@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
    > Pszemol wrote:
    > > But how to add DSB to a working tank after it has been working fine for almost
    > > 2 years? Is it technicaly doable at all?

    >
    > One possible alternative might be to add it to a refugium or external
    > sump instead ?


    Unfortunately I do not have any sump nor refugium right now... :-(
     
    Pszemol, Aug 24, 2003
    #20
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.