Sterilite ClearView containers

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Pszemol, Jan 18, 2004.

  1. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    I was thinking about using Sterilite ClearView containers
    available in Walmart and other places for my sump/refugium.
    They are cheap as dirt and in nice sizes suiting my cabinet.
    The only thing they lack is dividers... I was thinking
    if I could somehow glue them inside but I am not sure what
    this containers are made from (what plastic?) and what glue
    can I use to seal it... Any idea you can share with me?

    I need to make at least two dividers - one short one to
    stick drain hose behind it and the second one to keep
    high water level in the sump dividing section for the pump.
    I am not going to do any complicated baffling system...
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2004
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  2. Why not use a few of those sterlites to make one? Just cut out the base of a
    couple of cheap ones to assure you have the same material.

    I don't know if Weld-On would work, but Home Depot has a number of GOOP products
    and you'd want one that glues plastics. Then again, you'd have to worry about
    leaching products into your water.

    To keep the Sterlite from swelling, you'll need to cut a hole in the lid (for
    access) and then glue/screw it to the top to help it keep its shape.

    Marc


    Pszemol wrote:

    > I was thinking about using Sterilite ClearView containers
    > available in Walmart and other places for my sump/refugium.
    > They are cheap as dirt and in nice sizes suiting my cabinet.
    > The only thing they lack is dividers... I was thinking
    > if I could somehow glue them inside but I am not sure what
    > this containers are made from (what plastic?) and what glue
    > can I use to seal it... Any idea you can share with me?
    >
    > I need to make at least two dividers - one short one to
    > stick drain hose behind it and the second one to keep
    > high water level in the sump dividing section for the pump.
    > I am not going to do any complicated baffling system...


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    Marc Levenson, Jan 18, 2004
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  3. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    "Marc Levenson" <melev@swbell.net> wrote in message news:400B1311.2B7DC2C3@swbell.net...
    > Why not use a few of those sterlites to make one? Just cut out the base of a
    > couple of cheap ones to assure you have the same material.


    That was exactly my idea. I just need to know first
    what kind of plastic they use to pick right glue for it.

    > I don't know if Weld-On would work, but Home Depot has a number of GOOP products
    > and you'd want one that glues plastics. Then again, you'd have to worry about
    > leaching products into your water.


    Have to check them out - thanks.

    > To keep the Sterlite from swelling, you'll need to cut a hole in the lid (for
    > access) and then glue/screw it to the top to help it keep its shape.


    Good idea.
     
    Pszemol, Jan 19, 2004
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  4. > That was exactly my idea. I just need to know first
    > what kind of plastic they use to pick right glue for it.


    most sterilite bins I have seen have been marked polypro, which is not glueable, you would
    need to weld it using an expensive plastic welder :(

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    Richard Reynolds, Jan 19, 2004
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  5. Pszemol

    Mort Guest

    As far as which glue to use, maybe PVC cement would be worth a try?
    It *should* be safe, afterall, its used on our plumbing for potable water.
    And IME, it will bond most plastics.

    ~Mort


    "Marc Levenson" <melev@swbell.net> wrote in message
    news:400B1311.2B7DC2C3@swbell.net...
    > Why not use a few of those sterlites to make one? Just cut out the base

    of a
    > couple of cheap ones to assure you have the same material.
    >
    > I don't know if Weld-On would work, but Home Depot has a number of GOOP

    products
    > and you'd want one that glues plastics. Then again, you'd have to worry

    about
    > leaching products into your water.
    >
    > To keep the Sterlite from swelling, you'll need to cut a hole in the lid

    (for
    > access) and then glue/screw it to the top to help it keep its shape.
    >
    > Marc
    >
    >
    > Pszemol wrote:
    >
    > > I was thinking about using Sterilite ClearView containers
    > > available in Walmart and other places for my sump/refugium.
    > > They are cheap as dirt and in nice sizes suiting my cabinet.
    > > The only thing they lack is dividers... I was thinking
    > > if I could somehow glue them inside but I am not sure what
    > > this containers are made from (what plastic?) and what glue
    > > can I use to seal it... Any idea you can share with me?
    > >
    > > I need to make at least two dividers - one short one to
    > > stick drain hose behind it and the second one to keep
    > > high water level in the sump dividing section for the pump.
    > > I am not going to do any complicated baffling system...

    >
    > --
    > Personal Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com/oanda/index.html
    > Business Page: http://www.sparklingfloorservice.com
    > Marine Hobbyist: http://www.melevsreef.com
    >
    >
     
    Mort, Jan 19, 2004
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  6. Pszemol

    Rod Guest

    maybe you could use a smaller container inside of the larger sterelite? thats
    what I do. I have the drain lines and the skimmer drain dump into a smaller
    container ( actually a 1 gal picture) that has a series of holes drilled near
    the top of that container. There are also a few small rocks in that container
    to break any airbubbles. If any airbubbles make it out of the first container,
    they are broken up by live rock that is in the main sump near the return line..
    The sterelite that i use does not bow or distort too much. I dont keep the lid
    on it.
    Rod Buehler
    www.asplashoflife.com
     
    Rod, Jan 19, 2004
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  7. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    Do you have any pictures of your sump I could take a peek?

    "Rod" <rbuehler9@cs.com> wrote in message news:20040119084704.26379.00000327@mb-m07.news.cs.com...
    > maybe you could use a smaller container inside of the larger sterelite? thats
    > what I do. I have the drain lines and the skimmer drain dump into a smaller
    > container ( actually a 1 gal picture) that has a series of holes drilled near
    > the top of that container. There are also a few small rocks in that container
    > to break any airbubbles. If any airbubbles make it out of the first container,
    > they are broken up by live rock that is in the main sump near the return line..
    > The sterelite that i use does not bow or distort too much. I dont keep the lid
    > on it.
    > Rod Buehler
    > www.asplashoflife.com
     
    Pszemol, Jan 19, 2004
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  8. Pszemol

    Rod Guest

    Sorry, I dont.. Its very basic though.. I should also mention that I do not use
    my sump to grow macro-algae, nor do I use it as a refugium. I keep my
    refugiums/algae-scrubbers above the tanks.
    Rod Buehler
    www.asplashoflife.com
     
    Rod, Jan 20, 2004
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  9. Pszemol

    Acrylics Guest

    >most sterilite bins I have seen have been marked polypro, which is not
    >glueable, you would
    >need to weld it using an expensive plastic welder :(


    I believe the colored ones are polypro and the clear ones are polyethylene, but
    both are one or the other.
    In either case, neither will glue using regular plastic solvents.
    I would try the actual glues first, Marine Goop may stick to a point but I
    doubt long term. Same with silicone, I would think you should be able to get
    it to hold if you silicone the hell out of it though..
    Hot glue would be an easy one and sounds plausible enough.
    Hmm, now I have some experimenting to do as well :)

    James
     
    Acrylics, Jan 21, 2004
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  10. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    "Acrylics" <acrylics@aol.comatos.org> wrote in message news:20040120210053.25802.00000364@mb-m23.aol.com...
    > >most sterilite bins I have seen have been marked polypro, which is not
    > >glueable, you would
    > >need to weld it using an expensive plastic welder :(

    >
    > I believe the colored ones are polypro and the clear ones are polyethylene, but
    > both are one or the other.
    > In either case, neither will glue using regular plastic solvents.
    > I would try the actual glues first, Marine Goop may stick to a point but I
    > doubt long term. Same with silicone, I would think you should be able to get
    > it to hold if you silicone the hell out of it though..
    > Hot glue would be an easy one and sounds plausible enough.
    > Hmm, now I have some experimenting to do as well :)


    You say hot glue... but now I would introduce uncertain material again...
    Is hot glue safe?
     
    Pszemol, Jan 21, 2004
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  11. Pszemol

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    In article <20040120210053.25802.00000364@mb-m23.aol.com>,
    acrylics@aol.comatos.org (Acrylics) writes:

    >I believe the colored ones are polypro and the clear ones are polyethylene,
    >but
    >both are one or the other.


    LOL Acrylics, I thought you would know your plastics :) The clear ones are
    polypropylene also. I don't know of any Sterilite containers that arn't
    polypropylene.

    The best Wally-World plastic containers to use for sumps, are "low density
    polyethelen" (more resistant to chemicals, and cracking). But you usualy don't
    see them in clear, at least not at Wally-World. And even the "clear" ones are
    stranslucent. Best to use a big sump, and then add dividers to it.

    If you want clear, go with glass or acrylic.

    "low density polyethelen" is stamped on the bottom as "LDPE"

    Wayne Sallee
    http://members.aol.com/waynesallee/weblink.htm
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jan 28, 2004
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