Discussion in 'Contests' started by Bifferwine, May 16, 2010.
Nerdy me?No way!
I'm going to put a Vulcan death grip on you Brian.:mrgreen:
Thats why I got married.The wife gets to do my ironin.:mrgreen:
haha I do have to say though, we can all be nerdy at times though.
I mean come on, we have FUN with chemistry????:^:
I still vote that we put the top design, well, the top 3 designs at cafepress.com or zazzle.com that way we all can pick the shirt style and fabric we all want. We can order anytime, 24/7 any day of the year. I think we will have way more sales which will generate more cash to make up for cafepress' cut. JMO
Catherine, I looked at both of those sites' pricing. Even if Living Reefs doesn't make any profit, they are just too expensive and I'd hate to ask people to have to pay those prices (i.e. a plain black t-shirt STARTS at $25). If the site wants to make a few bucks off of each shirt, and if you factor in tax and shipping, you're going to be paying at least $35 for just a single t-shirt. That doesn't seem fair to me, and I think if I go that route, we will make way less in sales. I have gotten quotes from 6 different places now, and Zazzle and Cafe Press were the most expensive out of all of them. I don't think people would be willing to pay $10 more per shirt just so they can have their choice of what fabric to use. I could be wrong, and if I am, please let me know. I just know that I wouldn't be willing to pay $10 more per shirt just to be able to choose cotton/poly blend over ultra cotton... The alternative is that I get to pick which fabric to use (via this vote) and order them all the same, and the t-shirts end up being on average, $10 cheaper apiece.
Cheaper is good
Biff, you make very good points. It is cheaper, you say 10.00 per shirt. I think it is worth the extra money for a lot of reasons, not just the price. I think being able to order any type of clothing item, bumper sticker, tote bag, coffee mug..... whatever, is worth it. I also think it would be cool to pick the top 2-3 designs and place them there so people could have more of a choice would be cool. Another thing is the color and fabric of the shirt and design. Some people had problems with the pastel colors and they would be able to change them if they wished. The biggest reason I think this is worth it is the convenience. In one hour we could have the design up and ready for people to order. We don't need to send you our money have you put in the order and then wait for you or someone else to accept the money, place the order and then wait for them to be ready so you can figure out who gets which size, package them and mail them out. No only is that a burden for you time wise but what if someone is late sending you their money, then we all have to wait however long for everyone to send in their funds, or what if you mixed up the sizes or the addresses? What if I want to get a Living Reefs dog shirt for Wally next Christmas because I got Dennis as my secret santa? If the shirt design was on one of those sites, I could do that. In my opinion, it would be so much easier for everyone, we would have more options and not burden any one member of our site with the responsibility of accepting funds and distributing shirts that it would be worth more than an extra 10.00 per item. I will 100% respect how we decided to do this and I will participate fully with the outcome. I plan to order a shirt for each member of my family! Putting together t-shirts was originally my idea so I feel I have the right to voice my opinion. Don't fuss, we can agree to disagree here, I was simply presenting my idea. Thank you.
Here's a question, can we do both? Place the design at cafepress or zazzle AND have you make an order? Maybe we can put the #2 design there and do the group order for the #1 design? Just asking, not trying to make trouble.....
I mean "WOOF!" :x:
Biff are you going to order and house all the T-Shirts at your home? If so then Catherine has some very valid points. I order all my Company stuff from Queensburo:
All Custom Embroidered Products
They are a very good Company and their clothing is guaranteed for life. Everyone could order what ever type of shirt they wanted like Polos, Button-Downs, T0Shirts, etc. As well as Bags, cups, and a lot of other things.
T-Shirts start around $9.77 and Polos around $12.50. Please take a look at their stuff.
With all that, I just want a shirt so what ever is the easiest and most cost effective, go for it!!!
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS!
I realize those are all good points, and they are points that I have been trying to figure out a work-around for. I was planning on placing a bulk order with my own money, including various sizes of shirts, but guided by a quick survey of how many people would order, and what sizes they needed. I wasn't going to "wait" for everyone's money before ordering. If Ian could provide me access to an account to order with that money instead, I'd do that as an alternative, but I don't know if that's possible.
I know that this would be more costly and time consuming for me. But this is also the reason why I posted the "Prices" vote. Only 14% of people said they'd be willing to pay $30 or more for a shirt. I know voting just started a few days ago and that not everyone has voted yet, but I don't want to alienate the remaining 86% of people that voted by making the shirts cost $35 apiece. The trouble/hassle/time it will take me to order the shirts, house them at my place, and mail them all myself, will drop the prices of the shirts considerably. It will cut the price of the shirts by a third. To me, that's a lot of money.
Maybe there is a way we could have shirts done in bulk, and have the design available via an online store. But I'd still have to place a minimum order for the bulk order.
Biff, I very much appreciate you doing this. I didn't see the vote for the prices or I would have brought these points up then. PLEASE know, I very much appreciate all of your very hard work on this! I don't want you to put your own money up for this endeavor. In my many years of life, I have been the t-shirt person for many, many groups. This was before the internet. I've been in charge of Brownies, Girl Scouts, Art Club, Photography Club shirts, etc. many, many times. I can tell you every time, no matter what I did or how diligent I was about the money and such I always ended up getting screwed financially. I appreciate your time and energy and I know what a pain in the butt this can be. It is absolutely unacceptable to me that you are going to incur the responsibility for this both in time and finances. If the funds are going to go to the running of this site then Ian should be the responsible party for this endeavor. I've done what your going to do a million times and I feel that people just don't understand the time and effort your are going to have to put into this. If they did, they would be willing to pay a few extra dollars to help save you the time and effort.
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