Time to play "What's wrong with this picture?"

I got the pubic thing after the whole "option" mispelling guess...thanks for the vote of confidence RC :lol:

The Sears thing was random too, had to scour that page, but funny nonetheless...too bad I already own a baby burner, or I would have whipped out the credit card :evil!?!?:...."I want my baby back, baby back, baby back ribs..." and so on :shock:

 

what you wanna bet that the grill one is actually just an english translation from chinese or whatever language it was originally written in,

 

Wow, I am so against Gov't health care (when has the gov't done *anything* right???). But there should always be a place for the public to give a voice. It is supposed to be the Gov't working for the citizens (yeah, I know, most of them on both sides of the aile seem to be crooks).

 

Fixed it for ya:mrgreen:

My biggest concern is that all this is getting funded by money that is not there. Which is what was a major contributor to the state that we are in. Which will make it worse over time.

Brian

 

Funny ... but too close for comfort! :grumble: Medicare is broken, Social Security is broken, Medicaid is broken, Post Office is broken ... What did they ever do right?

 

While I don't think the government will do a good job either, doesn't mean that the medical insurance companies aren't raping the american public either. I don't know about anyone else, but I had $60/month coming out my paycheck to pay insurance, and for what? A physical and two dentist visits? That's $720 for one old guy to grab my balls and tell me to cough, and another one to brush my teeth for me twic a year...and we're complaining that the government is corupt? The government isn't corupt, it's stupid, and corporations are making money off their stupidity, which in the end, is making money off of our stupidity. Why is Social Security and Medicaid broken because the government is letting companies charge senior citizens $100 per pill of medication. Think if we slapped Eli Lilly with an Anti-Trust suit? For one thing it would never happen because they own too many people in congress, but the amount of money they have sucked from this country could easily put Social Security back on track. Everyone's worried about socialism; what about feudalism? Pretty soon Kmart and Walmart are going to stop offerring lay away and start offering "slave-away" as a form of payment.

...and this is where I took a breath, noticed I was ranting, and stopped, sorry :shock:

 

$60 a month isn't too bad, Kid.

Most people who are opposed to socialized medicine do not have to pay for medical insurance by themselves. Wait until you lose your job, have your insurance canceled, or simply have a job where your employer doesn't offer a co-pay of your insurance. If the rates continue rising like they have in the past ten years we're all in trouble. Most employers at some point will quit offering benefits because of the expense. There are a lot of companies which no longer offer full-time employment so that they don't have to offer benefits.

Being self employed, in good health and with only one small claim in 17 years I now pay over $600 for medical insurance just for myself. That's ridiculous.

 

ahh was gonna make a comment but decided to edit instead.

 

This is a scary subject especially since the gov't seems to screw up every program they touch. It's like this: either the insurance companies and medical field are going to get us or the gov't is. I guess we'll just have to keep bending over.

 

arent you drifting off subject just a little were are the modirators lol jk im not a party pooper

 

Awe that old subject was dead and boring a long time ago. :lol:

 

I think it was by the 2nd post of "Oh, I get it now" :lol:

On another note, back to you comment DC about I should wait and see what Healthcare prices are when I lose my job...been out of work for about 3 months now and can't even afford Cobra which is "supposed" to help people out. I was merely saying, a lot of these people who have been compalining about "socialized" medicine keep complaining about their tax dollars paying for everyone elses medical bills when they don't realize that their insurance dollars are paying for some CEO's private jet rather than that surgery that they're expecting to have covered down the line.

 

Help me figure this one out. I have insurance it pays 80/20 with a 500 deductable. I went in the hospital last year was in a 3 days. I got a bill from the hospital that broke down the charges. The insurance paid a contracted rate of 15k then it said my amount due is the difference of the contracted rate plus my deductable and my 20% for a total of 18k. Huh? Hows that 80/20 Now I dont have 18k laying around so now my credit is shot. I tried to make arrangements they wanted payment in full I told them when pigs fly.

 

I've been on both sides, paying the full shot for insurance and having a company pay most of it. I would rather pay the full shot than have my taxed pay for a little bit of nothing. The additional taxes will definitely hurt as it's hard enough taking care of my kid's needs with all the taxes I already pay. I simply don't trust trust the Gov't to do half the job my insurance does, which is sad considering most health insurance isn't exactly stellar.

By the way, has anyone ever seen what doctors pay in liability insurance? I worked at a company where we received proof of liability insurance from physicians and most of the bills for surgeons were close or over 100K :shock:. That is a big reason our insurance costs so much. There is too much frivolous litigation. I'm not against valid legal action, but there isn't much validity to a lot of the lawsuits people file.

 

Some places try to charge you the difference between the contracted rate and the amount they bill. When I used to work for a health insurance company processing bills, people would call and ask about it. The answer was simple, the hospital contracted for a rate and the patient is only liable up to that rate. So if a hospital agreed a 10K procedure would be "marked down" to 6K, they couldn't bill the patient for the 4K difference, although some of them tried. We got pretty blunt with some of the physician's billing offices. Of course, you would have to find out how your particular insurance company works. I'd call your insurance. They should, if it is decent, should contact the hospital and tell them to knock it off.

 

Can't say I blame you ... but I'll keep it civil :mrgreen:

 

Well, I am one of the lucky ones. My health insurance costs me nothing out of my pocket. It is one of the benefits that an employeer pays as part of the union negotiations. The employeer pays over 10 dollars and hour into health insurance. That translates to over 400 dollars a WEEK in a 40 hour work week. My biggest fear is that the government starts taxing health insurance even though I am not paying for it. I would go broke if that was taxed!!!!!! Another thing is that if the nationalized health care goes into effect, there will be a lot more companies that quit offering any sort of plans and it would put a bigger weight onto the tax payer.

Brian

 

That was part of McCain's tax plan. During the presidential debates, Obama vigorously opposed taxing health benefits. McCain wanted the employee to be taxed on not only the portion of health insurance that they pay, but also on what their employer pays. This would effectively raise most of our taxable incomes by 1/3, even though we never see a cent of that money. I highly doubt Obama's administration would change their mind on this, as this was one of his strongest arguments against McCain's tax plan.

 

Can you say flip flopper?
Seriously at this point who knows what they will come up with. They'll probably plan to help for it by taxing Saltwater Hobbyists. :shock: :mrgreen: