Water temperature over 100 degrees...

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    OK, I got home early this morning and went to bed. This morning around 9ish, I went to my DT and saw no signs of life in my tank....except my clown and tiger goby swimming around. My anemones were retracted...I was wondering what was happening. Then I touched the water and it was hot. Of course, I quickly began emptying out the water in an attempt to cool it down. I tested all the parameters and was fine, just the temperature. To make the long story short, I discovered my heater for the tank malfunctioned. As I touch the heater in the tank, it was super hot and burnt my finger a little.
    Now, I changed out the water, removed the dead fish shrimp and others...:(

    My question is, will my anemone recover? Is there anything I can do to help it? Funny, the hermit crabs and snails are still alive...

    It was a frantic and :(:sad:sad day for me...

    Any advice will be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

    David
     
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    Oh wow....that sucks :( Have you been able to bring the temp down? Maybe a ziplock bag of ice as well. It's a wait-and-see moment if the corals all come back out. How many fish did you lose? Amazing the clown and goby made it!
     
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    Sorry to hear this it is very sad.

    Its best not to shock the system by cooling it down too fast either. I would keep a watch on the anemone and see if it is moving around tomorrow.
     
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    well i lost a bi-color blenny, corral banded shrimp, fire fish goby, feather duster, blue legged hermit crab, and two snails (turbo snail survived). =-(

    as i mentioned, i believed the temp was over 100 degrees, since the temp gage was not even registering the temp at all. the temp just blew the roof top.

    i panic a bit and emptied approx 75-80 percent of the water. then i filled it back up with newly mixed salt water. my tank looks and feels fine now, but, all of my polyps and anemone are all closed.

    i hope my corrals and [FONT=&quot]anemone[/FONT] will make it. i'll give it some time to recuperate...
     
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    wontonflip I failed Kobayashi Maru

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    Yeah, that's a bit much....hope the nem makes it, too because its death can wipe out the rest of the inhabitants.

    Next time, just do the ice in a bag trick, but I hope you don't have to go through it again.
     
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    thanks! i will watch the nem closely...crossing my fingers...
     
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    That's terrible! I hate when heaters malfunction. Hopefully everything will recover just fine :)
     
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    What kind of heater was it? The Marineland heaters were recently recalled due to this problem. A lot of people had problems with them. One of our members was able to get Marineland to reimburse her for the cost of all of her lost livestock.
     
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    yup, mine was a marineland...and got it, i think less than a year ago. let me go look for the receipt or transaction on my credit card...
    thanks for the info...
    for me, i lost a lot. right now, my GSP look kinda bad. it has not open at all. prior to this, it was healthy. also mushrooms when opened were like inch and a half in diameter. it has shrunk to the size of a eraser yip of a pencil...shriveled up...
    definitely, i will look in the Marineland heater recall.

    If you have anymore info on the recall and the member who got reimburse, please let me know....

    Thanks in advance.

    David
     
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    Ok, I am sooo sorry to hear about your tank! I just recently went through the same thing, and I lost EVERYTHING! Not even the live rock survived>|< R.I.P., but you are possibly in luck! I reported my situation to marineland and this is what they told me to do:
    1) Give a detailed letter about your tank and heater (when you set it up, size of your set-up, animals, frequency of wc's, LR, lighting, position of heater, additives added, etc.), and THE MORE DETAILED THE BETTER!
    2) Pics of your tank if you have them
    3) Get a receipt/estimate of the livestock you had in your tank with letterhead (I got that from my lfs)
    4) Send the heater
    5) Your return name and address

    Then I Mailed it all to:

    United Pets Group
    Attn. CLAIM
    3001 Commerce Street
    Blacksburg, VA 24060

    I would call them @ (800)322-1266 too just so they have a record of your situation. They fully reimbursed me within a month of filing the claim for all the livestock lost in my tank. I know it's not the same as what you had, because I had to start over from scratch, but it's good to know Marineland is such a good company...GOOD LUCK!!
     
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    Much thanks! I just finished reading your posts sent by Wontonflip on the incident you had with your heater.
    I will do what you did. I will look for my receipt or proof of purchase. I hope they will come through for me, as they did for you. As I am typing, I can remember vividly what happened this morning. The water temperature was extremely high and when I put my fingers around it, I pulled away from the heater quickly due to my reflex...It was blazing hot.

    Anyhow, thanks for your help!
    Thanks to everyone's words of comfort and help.

    I will post what my outcome is in dealing with Marineland.

    Stay tune.

    David
     
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    Alright, one thing accomplished. I located the receipt...it was in the DT's cabinet. I actually purchased the Marineland ML-200W Stealth PR on 10/23/10 for $38.95. I will call them first chance I get tomorrow.

    David
     
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    Good luck, grd! How're the surviving fish and coral doing? I'm amazed they survived!

    I have 2 marineland stealths. Never had issues, but obviously, didn't want to take the chance of continued use. I switched them to a pair of via aqua titanium heaters, w/ external controls. I still kept my marinelands. I use them only to heat up my change-out water, and when I do that, I'm nearby and checking on the temp every couple of hours anyway.
     
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    Good luck David. I'm sorry this happened to you, but I hope you can at least get some money back.
     
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    Well, I just got off the phone with the customer service rep. He basically told me exactly what you told me. I will send in my claim with a copy of my receipt, and a list of livestock I had along with a letter from a fish store listing the estimated cost to each of my items I lost. If the store will not do that, I can get a business card from them. Marineland will then call them. This will take approximately 4-6 weeks, according to the rep on the phone.

    Thus far, I am happy with Marineland's policy in dealing with this. The guy apologized and even said, the reimbursement if approved would not replace my lost. Now, I just got to go to my LFS.

    Will still keep everyone updated.

    Thanks to everyone for your assistance.:D

    David
     
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    I'm glad to hear so many positive things about how they've handled this. It's a big hit to a company's bottom line, and their response has been outstanding.
     
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    Yup, excellent response. The rep said there's no way they can communicate to everyone that purchased one of their stealth heaters. Again, very sympathetic and professional.
    I guess that stealth heater was not stealth after all. It sure made itself known. I am quite sure they realize that it is cheaper to reimburse the customers than having a class action lawsuit. Nevertheless, Marineland is topnotch in handling the matter...

    Now, on my way to my LFS...Let's see if the guy can help me out.

    David
     
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    wontonflip I failed Kobayashi Maru

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    Yeah...normally, you'd have to fight tooth and nail to justify your loss. Bravo Marineland/United Pets Group!
     
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    I uploaded a pic of my tank showing the condition from the defected heater, which killed nearly everything...my tiger and clown fish survived for now. the large LV rock on top had a beautiful head of GSP going strong. I hope it's not dead and will come out again...

    Just mourning all my lost. I already went to my LFS and spoke to the owner. Tomorrow, I will bring a sample of my water and he will test it for me. Also, he will provide me estimates to all of the livestock I've lost...then I will be able to send in my claim to Marineland. I guess I will feel better when I accomplish that.
     

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