What's the best SALT?

Discussion in 'Reef Fishes' started by Peter Pan, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
    and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
    salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
    mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
    over.( the process should take several months.

    My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
    What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
    product for my tank?

    Thanks
     
    Peter Pan, Jan 21, 2006
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  2. Peter Pan

    Pszemol Guest

    "Peter Pan" <P-Pan@Neverland.com> wrote in message news:gLydnRGzZYUD4U_enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
    > I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal.
    > FOWLR tank in 2002 and never had a problem.


    So what would be the reason for you to change salt
    when everything is working fine with no problems ?
    If it ain't broken DO NOT FIX IT!
     
    Pszemol, Jan 21, 2006
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  3. Peter Pan

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.

    The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic
    to keep people from swiching salts.

    The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some
    salt manufactures have used in the past, or currently use
    (I have not found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial
    clarifier). If your salts do not, then there is no problem
    with mixing.

    Wayne Sallee
    Wayne's Pets
    Wayne@WaynesPets.com


    Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
    > I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
    > and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
    > salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
    > mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
    > over.( the process should take several months.
    >
    > My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
    > What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
    > product for my tank?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    >
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jan 21, 2006
    #3
  4. Peter Pan

    Billy Guest

    "Peter Pan" <P-Pan@Neverland.com> wrote in message
    news:gLydnRGzZYUD4U_enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
    > I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank
    > in 2002 and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a
    > good idea to change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a
    > very lengthy process with mixing your current salt with the new
    > stuff until your completly changed over.( the process should take
    > several months.
    >
    > My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using
    > Instant Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits
    > or is it really a better product for my tank?


    He's trying to make money. With few exceptions, one salt is as good
    as the next. If the salt you are using is giving you the results you
    want, stick with it. I have seen many cases where people ran into
    troubles mixing brands. I've been using Oceanic since it came out,
    and it's doing fine for me.
     
    Billy, Jan 21, 2006
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  5. Peter Pan

    Roy Guest

    Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
    what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
    salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
    Ocean.........

    http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
    check it out and see what lab tests have shown....


    Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
    that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
    know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
    not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
    compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
    numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
    have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
    marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
    products........

    Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
    generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
    other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
    create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
    already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"

    On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee <Wayne@WayneSallee.com>
    wrote:
    >><>Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.
    >><>
    >><>The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic
    >><>to keep people from swiching salts.
    >><>
    >><>The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some
    >><>salt manufactures have used in the past, or currently use
    >><>(I have not found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial
    >><>clarifier). If your salts do not, then there is no problem
    >><> with mixing.
    >><>
    >><>Wayne Sallee
    >><>Wayne's Pets
    >><>Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >><>
    >><>
    >><>Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
    >><>> I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
    >><>> and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
    >><>> salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
    >><>> mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
    >><>> over.( the process should take several months.
    >><>>
    >><>> My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
    >><>> What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
    >><>> product for my tank?
    >><>>
    >><>> Thanks
    >><>>
    >><>>


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    Roy, Jan 21, 2006
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  6. Peter Pan

    TheRock Guest

    When I do water changes I save my dirty water and evaporate it.
    Then I scrape out the left over salt and add it back to the system later.
    I've bought one bag of salt in the last 3 years !!!




    (just kidding)


    "Peter Pan" <P-Pan@Neverland.com> wrote in message
    news:gLydnRGzZYUD4U_enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
    > I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
    > and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to
    > change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process
    > with mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly
    > changed over.( the process should take several months.
    >
    > My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant
    > Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really
    > a better product for my tank?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
     
    TheRock, Jan 21, 2006
    #6
  7. Peter Pan

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If
    you don't belive me you can go around asking your LFS.

    Wayne Sallee
    Wayne's Pets
    Wayne@WaynesPets.com


    Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:
    > Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
    > what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
    > salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
    > Ocean.........
    >
    > http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
    > check it out and see what lab tests have shown....
    >
    >
    > Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
    > that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
    > know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
    > not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
    > compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
    > numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
    > have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
    > marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
    > products........
    >
    > Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
    > generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
    > other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
    > create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
    > already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"
    >
    > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee <Wayne@WayneSallee.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>><>Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.
    >>><>
    >>><>The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic
    >>><>to keep people from swiching salts.
    >>><>
    >>><>The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some
    >>><>salt manufactures have used in the past, or currently use
    >>><>(I have not found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial
    >>><>clarifier). If your salts do not, then there is no problem
    >>><> with mixing.
    >>><>
    >>><>Wayne Sallee
    >>><>Wayne's Pets
    >>><>Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>><>
    >>><>
    >>><>Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
    >>><>> I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
    >>><>> and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to change
    >>><>> salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process with
    >>><>> mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly changed
    >>><>> over.( the process should take several months.
    >>><>>
    >>><>> My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant Ocean.
    >>><>> What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really a better
    >>><>> product for my tank?
    >>><>>
    >>><>> Thanks
    >>><>>
    >>><>>

    >
    >
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jan 21, 2006
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  8. Peter Pan

    Wayne Sallee Guest

    And Instant Ocean is the best salt.

    Wayne Sallee
    Wayne's Pets
    Wayne@WaynesPets.com


    Wayne Sallee wrote on 1/21/2006 5:56 PM:
    > Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If you don't
    > belive me you can go around asking your LFS.
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > Wayne's Pets
    > Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >
    >
    > Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:
    >
    >> Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
    >> what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
    >> salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
    >> Ocean.........
    >>
    >> http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
    >> check it out and see what lab tests have shown....
    >>
    >>
    >> Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
    >> that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
    >> know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
    >> not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
    >> compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
    >> numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
    >> have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
    >> marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
    >> products........
    >>
    >> Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
    >> generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
    >> other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
    >> create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
    >> already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"
    >>
    >> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee <Wayne@WayneSallee.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>> <>Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.
    >>>> <>
    >>>> <>The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic <>to keep
    >>>> people from swiching salts.
    >>>> <>
    >>>> <>The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some <>salt
    >>>> manufactures have used in the past, or currently use <>(I have not
    >>>> found anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial <>clarifier). If your
    >>>> salts do not, then there is no problem <> with mixing.
    >>>> <>
    >>>> <>Wayne Sallee
    >>>> <>Wayne's Pets
    >>>> <>Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>>> <>
    >>>> <>
    >>>> <>Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
    >>>> <>> I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR
    >>>> tank in 2002 <>> and never had a problem. I've read that its not
    >>>> really a good idea to change <>> salt, but if you were to change it,
    >>>> it was a very lengthy process with <>> mixing your current salt with
    >>>> the new stuff until your completly changed <>> over.( the process
    >>>> should take several months.
    >>>> <>> <>> My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then
    >>>> using Instant Ocean. <>> What im wondering is; Is it better for his
    >>>> profits or is it really a better <>> product for my tank?
    >>>> <>> <>> Thanks <>> <>>

    >>
    >>
    >>
     
    Wayne Sallee, Jan 21, 2006
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  9. Peter Pan

    Roy Guest

    Ah come on admit its true, trust me no one is gonna laugh. .....come
    on now admit its ture...thats got to be the best frugal thing i have
    heard in a long long time.......

    On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:33:09 GMT, "TheRock" <none@none.com> wrote:
    >><>When I do water changes I save my dirty water and evaporate it.
    >><>Then I scrape out the left over salt and add it back to the system later.
    >><>I've bought one bag of salt in the last 3 years !!!
    >><>
    >><>
    >><>
    >><>
    >><>(just kidding)
    >><>
    >><>
    >><>"Peter Pan" <P-Pan@Neverland.com> wrote in message
    >><>news:gLydnRGzZYUD4U_enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
    >><>> I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in 2002
    >><>> and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to
    >><>> change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy process
    >><>> with mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly
    >><>> changed over.( the process should take several months.
    >><>>
    >><>> My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant
    >><>> Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really
    >><>> a better product for my tank?
    >><>>
    >><>> Thanks
    >><>>
    >><>


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    Roy, Jan 21, 2006
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  10. Peter Pan

    Billy Guest

    "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:43d5bf41.17364259@news.east.earthlink.net...
    > Ah come on admit its true, trust me no one is gonna laugh.
    > .....come
    > on now admit its ture...thats got to be the best frugal thing i
    > have
    > heard in a long long time.......



    Doesn't sound like that great an idea to me. The critters in the tank
    USE the trace minerals in the salt mix. It would get so depleted
    after time, I would think critters would begin to suffer.
     
    Billy, Jan 22, 2006
    #10
  11. Peter Pan

    Jaime R-S Guest

    lol
    You are not just adding salts back, you are adding all the toxins in that
    water. The only thing that evaporates is H20, the rest: PO4, NH3, NH2,
    etc... you are just feeding it back to the tank...

    jrs
    "TheRock" <none@none.com> wrote in message
    news:FEyAf.505$Jn1.152@trndny01...
    > When I do water changes I save my dirty water and evaporate it.
    > Then I scrape out the left over salt and add it back to the system later.
    > I've bought one bag of salt in the last 3 years !!!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > (just kidding)
    >
    >
    > "Peter Pan" <P-Pan@Neverland.com> wrote in message
    > news:gLydnRGzZYUD4U_enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
    >> I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in
    >> 2002 and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea
    >> to change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy
    >> process with mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your
    >> completly changed over.( the process should take several months.
    >>
    >> My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant
    >> Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it really
    >> a better product for my tank?
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Jaime R-S, Jan 22, 2006
    #11
  12. Peter Pan

    Jaime R-S Guest

    LFSs like you? please!

    jrs
    "Wayne Sallee" <Wayne@WayneSallee.com> wrote in message
    news:43D2BC0F.2050807@WayneSallee.com...
    > Well belive it or not, Kent is just instant ocean salt. If you don't
    > belive me you can go around asking your LFS.
    >
    > Wayne Sallee
    > Wayne's Pets
    > Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >
    >
    > Roy wrote on 1/21/2006 4:49 PM:
    >> Come on Wayne why would Kent salt be the same as IO? Its contrary to
    >> what lab results have shown on the various breakdowns of synthetic sea
    >> salts commonly available. Its not even close to being Instant
    >> Ocean.........
    >>
    >> http://saltaquarium.about.com/cs/seasaltmixes/l/aa090503b.htmY'all
    >> check it out and see what lab tests have shown....
    >>
    >>
    >> Instant Ocean is a great salt so is Oceanic, and so is any other brand
    >> that works for you..........If I was to guess since I do not really
    >> know, the LFS is making more profit from Kent in more ways than one,
    >> not only from the standpoint of margin of profit it costs them as
    >> compared to I/O but probably as a way to be able to sell more of the
    >> numerous KENT line of products to sup0plement what other salts already
    >> have sufficiient quanities of.......Yea its a numbers game and a
    >> marketing game, but Kent leaves a lot to be desired in lots of their
    >> products........
    >>
    >> Salt water is salt water if its got the same degree of salt content
    >> generally speaking and is totally interchangeable with any
    >> other......all thats going to vary for the most part which should not
    >> create problems is trace minerals.........But like another posted
    >> already " If it ain't broke why fix it?"
    >>
    >> On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:45:49 GMT, Wayne Sallee <Wayne@WayneSallee.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>><>Your LFS is lying to you. Kent is Instant Ocean in a Kent Bag.
    >>>><>
    >>>><>The idea of not using different salts, is a scare tactic <>to keep
    >>>>people from swiching salts.
    >>>><>
    >>>><>The bit of trugh that lies in that statement is that some <>salt
    >>>>manufactures have used in the past, or currently use <>(I have not found
    >>>>anyone yet that does)EDTA (artificial <>clarifier). If your salts do
    >>>>not, then there is no problem <> with mixing.
    >>>><>
    >>>><>Wayne Sallee
    >>>><>Wayne's Pets
    >>>><>Wayne@WaynesPets.com
    >>>><>
    >>>><>
    >>>><>Peter Pan wrote on 1/21/2006 1:25 PM:
    >>>><>> I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank
    >>>>in 2002 <>> and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a
    >>>>good idea to change <>> salt, but if you were to change it, it was a
    >>>>very lengthy process with <>> mixing your current salt with the new
    >>>>stuff until your completly changed <>> over.( the process should take
    >>>>several months.
    >>>><>> <>> My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using
    >>>>Instant Ocean. <>> What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or
    >>>>is it really a better <>> product for my tank?
    >>>><>> <>> Thanks <>> <>>

    >>
     
    Jaime R-S, Jan 22, 2006
    #12
  13. Peter Pan

    Jaime R-S Guest

    lol
    I didnĀ“t read the last, (just kidding) I fell for it!

    jrs
    "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:43d5bf41.17364259@news.east.earthlink.net...
    > Ah come on admit its true, trust me no one is gonna laugh. .....come
    > on now admit its ture...thats got to be the best frugal thing i have
    > heard in a long long time.......
    >
    > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:33:09 GMT, "TheRock" <none@none.com> wrote:
    >>><>When I do water changes I save my dirty water and evaporate it.
    >>><>Then I scrape out the left over salt and add it back to the system
    >>>later.
    >>><>I've bought one bag of salt in the last 3 years !!!
    >>><>
    >>><>
    >>><>
    >>><>
    >>><>(just kidding)
    >>><>
    >>><>
    >>><>"Peter Pan" <P-Pan@Neverland.com> wrote in message
    >>><>news:gLydnRGzZYUD4U_enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
    >>><>> I've been using Instant Ocean since I set up my 75 Gal. FOWLR tank in
    >>>2002
    >>><>> and never had a problem. I've read that its not really a good idea to
    >>><>> change salt, but if you were to change it, it was a very lengthy
    >>>process
    >>><>> with mixing your current salt with the new stuff until your completly
    >>><>> changed over.( the process should take several months.
    >>><>>
    >>><>> My local LFS said that KENT was better for my tank then using Instant
    >>><>> Ocean. What im wondering is; Is it better for his profits or is it
    >>>really
    >>><>> a better product for my tank?
    >>><>>
    >>><>> Thanks
    >>><>>
    >>><>

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    Jaime R-S, Jan 22, 2006
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  14. Peter Pan

    Jaime R-S Guest

    Those "trace minerals" as you call them, are in every food or living
    organism that you feed to your fish. Don't worry about your trace minerals,
    worry more about that PO4 that feeds the algae and spoils your tank

    jrs
    "Billy" <gordygord2003@yahoo.uknow> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Roy" <Sonoma1720@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:43d5bf41.17364259@news.east.earthlink.net...
    >> Ah come on admit its true, trust me no one is gonna laugh. .....come
    >> on now admit its ture...thats got to be the best frugal thing i have
    >> heard in a long long time.......

    >
    >
    > Doesn't sound like that great an idea to me. The critters in the tank USE
    > the trace minerals in the salt mix. It would get so depleted after time, I
    > would think critters would begin to suffer.
    >
     
    Jaime R-S, Jan 22, 2006
    #14
  15. Peter Pan

    Billy Guest

    "Jaime R-S" <jaime_rs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:u0EAf.6891$f57.5877@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
    > Those "trace minerals" as you call them, are in every food or
    > living organism that you feed to your fish. Don't worry about your
    > trace minerals, worry more about that PO4 that feeds the algae and
    > spoils your tank
    >



    Sometimes I wonder why I bother posting here. Why don't drop by reef
    central or GARF sometime and tell people that have been caring for
    reef tanks all thier lives to "not worry about trace minerals".
     
    Billy, Jan 22, 2006
    #15
  16. Hi Wayne,

    The assertion that Instant Ocean is the best salt seems to run contrary
    to a study published in the March, 2003 issue of Reefkeeping. Here's a
    link to that article:
    http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-03/rs/feature/index.php

    The article describes a bio-assay experiment comparing several
    different salt mixes (unfortunately Kent wasn't among them) to natural
    salt water by comparing the development of sea urchin larvae in each.
    The article goes into great detail about the methodology, a statistical
    analysis of the results, and certain inferences drawn from a chemical
    analysis of the commercial products.

    The bottom line of the testing was that Instant Ocean and Coralife came
    out looking pretty bad, both in terms of urchin development and of the
    levels of undesirable metals in the products.

    Of the salts tested, the winner by a pretty fair margin seems to be
    Crystal Seas Marinemix - Bioassay Formula made by Marine Enterprises
    International, Inc. This product's make-up was the closest to NSW and
    it actually had a slightly better urchin development result than did
    NSW.


    Brackishly yours,

    Alex
     
    Tidepool Geek, Jan 22, 2006
    #16
  17. Tidepool Geek wrote:

    > Of the salts tested, the winner by a pretty fair margin seems to be
    > Crystal Seas Marinemix - Bioassay Formula made by Marine Enterprises
    > International, Inc. This product's make-up was the closest to NSW and
    > it actually had a slightly better urchin development result than did
    > NSW.


    Just did a quick search and found this on Reef Central ...

    Crystal Seas Marinemix causes bleaching?

    http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1179412#post1179412

    Opinions?
     
    Captain Feedback, Jan 22, 2006
    #17
  18. Peter Pan

    Pszemol Guest

    "Tidepool Geek" <big_smegma@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1137921583.084386.116790@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > The assertion that Instant Ocean is the best salt seems to run contrary
    > to a study published in the March, 2003 issue of Reefkeeping. Here's a
    > link to that article:
    > http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-03/rs/feature/index.php
    >
    > The article describes a bio-assay experiment comparing several
    > different salt mixes (unfortunately Kent wasn't among them) to natural
    > salt water by comparing the development of sea urchin larvae in each.
    > The article goes into great detail about the methodology, a statistical
    > analysis of the results, and certain inferences drawn from a chemical
    > analysis of the commercial products.
    >
    > The bottom line of the testing was that Instant Ocean and Coralife came
    > out looking pretty bad, both in terms of urchin development and of the
    > levels of undesirable metals in the products.
    >
    > Of the salts tested, the winner by a pretty fair margin seems to be
    > Crystal Seas Marinemix - Bioassay Formula made by Marine Enterprises
    > International, Inc. This product's make-up was the closest to NSW and
    > it actually had a slightly better urchin development result than did
    > NSW.


    I wonder why then so many marine zoology labolatories and
    commercial aquariums like Chciago Oceanarium are using
    the same salf which is so bad... What would be the purpose
    of studying a marine animal development in a salt mix causing
    damage and negatively influencing development ?

    Have you got the chance to hear the opinion of salt manufacturer ?
    Have you tried to find a different explanations for the test results ?
     
    Pszemol, Jan 22, 2006
    #18
  19. Peter Pan

    Pszemol Guest

    "Jaime R-S" <jaime_rs@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:u0EAf.6891$f57.5877@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
    > Those "trace minerals" as you call them, are in every food or living
    > organism that you feed to your fish. Don't worry about your trace minerals,
    > worry more about that PO4 that feeds the algae and spoils your tank


    Not only PO4 but whole list of other minerals and organic polutants
    you want to get rid of by doing the water change...
     
    Pszemol, Jan 22, 2006
    #19
  20. Peter Pan

    Roy Guest

    The new Aquarium in ATlanta has gone with Instant Ocean salt.....I
    seen pics of the truck load of salt they got in during the filling of
    the thing.....Now if memory serves me right, Kent is based out of
    Georgia, and not too fara form ATlanta region, so if Kent salt was
    nothing more than IO in a Kent bag, why did they not save bunches of
    money and get it directly from Kent right down the road instead of
    paying shipping costs to have it sent in from IO.......Perhaps Wayne
    can tellus....
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    Roy, Jan 22, 2006
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