Since things are moving so well I have purchased a copy of VBulletin you can view it at https://www.livingreefs.com/cmps_index.php . I have imported all the messages and users up to the date and time of this message. You can drop by to check it out if you like and see its progress while I work on customizing it. BUT be warned that I will do a reimport just before it goes live wipeing any posts or changes you have made. It should be ready in a few weeks. Comments and suggestions are welcome. P.S. VBulletin from an Admin stand point is a dream compared to phpBB also maybe jhnrb can finally see the pictures.