About two or three weeks, the PPE's looked great at first, the Candy Apple Reds have never opened all the way, The PPE's just started this curling up like they are closing but not fully closing a few days ago, it appears that they have lost the skirt around that area that is curling up here are some pictures I have moved them since i did the dip from the sand bed to a rock as you can see, unfortunately the second pic is not that great I will try to get a better one here in a min