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LoveJC03

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We have a 30 gallon aquarium. This will be our very first saltwater tank.

We plan on having live rock and some coral & an anemone. We're thinking maybe 2 clownfish, a bi-color angel, 2 chromis.. not sure yet though. A cleaner shrimp & some snails. Also a starfish.

First of all is this too much to add to our aquarium?

Besides the living things.. what is everything that we need to have to get our tank started? Pumps, lights, sand..etc. :question:
 
For your 30 gallon, i would take the chromis out of the question and leave the clownfish and angel.
As for an anemone, your tank needs to be mature so the anemone doesnt die and poison the tank, this fact is debatable, some people argue it, but i like to stick to this rule. Better wait than kill everything, besides, there are plenty cool corals out there, and clownfish dont need a nem to be happy, they will host anything, and i mean anything! :D
Shrimp, snails, hermit so on will be fine, as for a starfish, i do not know to much about them, so someone else will chip in hopefully.
You will need some good lights for corals, sand, live rock, or dead rock and seed with live rock, i would say 2 powerheads depending on GPH, heater, protein skimmer (not nessacery, but does help).

Did i miss anything?? :p

And Welcome to the Reef! :D

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You know about cycling your tank though right??
Read these articles:
https://www.livingreefs.com/basic-equipment-list-t19611.html
https://www.livingreefs.com/marine-aquarium-disasters-and-prevent-them-t20514.html
https://www.livingreefs.com/choose-your-fish-t27083.html
 
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EQUIPMENT:

Test kits
for ammonia, nitrate, PH, alkalinity, minimum. Phosphates maybe, and Calcium if you're keeping corals.

A Refractometer for testing salinity.I bought mine off of ebay, it's the same kind sold by marine depot and most other places for twice more.

An RO/DI unit for making pure water. filterguys makes great units for a decent budget.

Eheim Jager heaters.

Koralia or Sicce voyager powerheads. Or maxi jets if you're on a budget. (ultra reliable!)

If you're going with a sump, you'll need a return pump and hang-off-back overflow. Mag drives are cheap and reliable pumps, but loud, while eheims are extremely quiet, but expensive. Tunze just came out with a couple of pumps which are supposed to be really good. As for an overflow, an eshopps overflow is just fine, or lifereef if you have the money. Glass-holes if you want to drill your tank and want to plumb PVC. At the very least, I recommend a HOB overflow and sump setup. This way, your tank *always* looks full, no matter how much water evaporates, and the nasty crap that sits on the surface of your tank will never be there. Then you just have to keep an eye on your return chamber for evaporation.

With a 30g tank, if you keep up with your water changes, you probably won't need a protein skimmer. Reef octopus' seem to be the board favorites. I have a bubble magus which is awesome.

Something to read temperature
. I have a 'little time and temp' digital one I bought at petco, works excellent.

A light timer, to control when your lights come on.

A mixing bucket for water. A couple of nets, tongs, tweezers, and a turkey baster. A *good* powerstrip, and you might want to change your wall outlet into a GFCI outlet, or get a portable GFCI outlet.

A magfloat or one of the algae free pirahna / shark floats for wiping algae.

Several feet of 1/4" hosing, for starting siphons, acclimating animals, etc.

And depending on what you're keeping, a good lighting system. This can be another thread by itself. T5's should be the minimum. There are many advantages to T5's and no drawbacks, and depending on how many you put over your tank, you can keep corals and anemones. Since you want an anemone, you'll need strong lighting. Probably 6 T5's. If you want a really sexy shimmer, go metal halide or LED. Metal Halides pack a ton of heat and use a lot of watts, LEDS uses very little watts and produces no heat, but are very expensive. Since you have a small tank, I'd push for a good LED setup if you can afford it. Either an ecoxotic, or aqua illuminations setup.

That should just about cover most of your needs. I'm sure I forgot something crucial. :mrgreen:

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Now, for LUXURIES. Stuff that's awesome but you don't need.

Vortech MP10 powerhead. Has wavemaker functions built in and you only need one.

A reef controller, such as an apex or reefkeeper lite. You can buy probes for these that read your ph, salinity, and temperature, that can send you updates to your cell phone, control your pumps, lights, etc.

An auto-top off system, such as the tunze osmolator, or any of the switch based ones which are more affordable. Allows you to keep a container of freshwater on the side, and makes it so you don't have to top off your tank, (or sump, if you have one) each day.
 
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Thank you all.. I've got alot to read up on now! This all seems very helpful, I just gotta check everything out.

Maybe this is a bit long term but depending where you live I would add a chiller. They are expensive but where I live it gets to 33C and over inside (when the tank should stay at 26C - sorry don't know what it is in your currency). My chiller was the single best thing I bought. I kept putting it off but I lost a lot of corals over the years with tank temp climbing. It still struggles to get the temp below 28 or so but it's better than 33 or 35. Worth thinking about. Good luck!

Cheers

Paul
 
Maybe this is a bit long term but depending where you live I would add a chiller. They are expensive but where I live it gets to 33C and over inside (when the tank should stay at 26C - sorry don't know what it is in your currency). My chiller was the single best thing I bought. I kept putting it off but I lost a lot of corals over the years with tank temp climbing. It still struggles to get the temp below 28 or so but it's better than 33 or 35. Worth thinking about. Good luck!

Cheers

Paul

We live in GA, USA Thanks for looking out, not sure if we need one.. but we'll check that out ;)
 
For lights... we need to know which ones we need for our 30 gallon. All the lights that we need, could you please specify?

We're going to have live rock & a few corals. Also... what are the best corals for beginners that still add beautiful colors to live rock?

Oh, and live sand.. what's a good one to get? :)
 
Hermits and snails, to start shrimp,crabs,stars,slugs down the line but. Reefcleaners.org is a pretty good site for all that stuff. Good luck

-Owen
 
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You're probably not going to need a chiller.

You also don't need live sand, any sand you add to your tank will be made live over time.
Some good beginner corals are mushrooms, zoas (which you can get in almost any color) and leathers.

Good "live cleaners"... you can go here ReefCleaners.org | Clean Up Crews and Macro Algae and they'll set you up with a "package". They are also a sponsor here, so you get a discount.
 
You're probably not going to need a chiller.

You also don't need live sand, any sand you add to your tank will be made live over time.
Some good beginner corals are mushrooms, zoas (which you can get in almost any color) and leathers.

Good "live cleaners"... you can go here ReefCleaners.org | Clean Up Crews and Macro Algae and they'll set you up with a "package". They are also a sponsor here, so you get a discount.

But.. we can have live sand and that's okay right? Or.. should we just have live rock and just plain sand?
Yeah we definitely are gonna try beginners lol! I saw that petco had a package of cleaners.. it was a few snails, crabs & a cleaner shrimp.. like 6 or 7 things for $75 (is that a good price)?
 
For a 30??
Well in my 32 i have one 550, and one 750. Works ok, no snad shifting, i have one pointed at the surface creating ripples, and the other lengthways pointing across the tank.
 
For a 30??
Well in my 32 i have one 550, and one 750. Works ok, no snad shifting, i have one pointed at the surface creating ripples, and the other lengthways pointing across the tank.

So would just a 550 do, or should I maybe have 2 of them?
 
My 550, didnt really do it, so i ordered 750, and it is perfect, and not to much price on top! :D Maybe from the money you dont spend on live sand you can get a powerhead! ;)
 
But.. we can have live sand and that's okay right? Or.. should we just have live rock and just plain sand?
Yeah we definitely are gonna try beginners lol! I saw that petco had a package of cleaners.. it was a few snails, crabs & a cleaner shrimp.. like 6 or 7 things for $75 (is that a good price)?

Just like the dry rock, any sand you put in your tank will become live, so save your money and get dry sand. Plus i have a really hard time believing that anything will still be live after sitting in bad for several months exposed to who knows what kind of conditions.

And really, just dont buy stuff from petco. Most of what they have is over priced crap that will more than likely die on the way to your or shortly after.

Here are a few sites that are a MILLION times better
Aquarium Fish: Tropical Freshwater Fish and Saltwater Fish for Home Aquariums
ReefCleaners.org | Clean Up Crews and Macro Algae - Home
Buy Saltwater Fish & Coral - Marine Fish, Live Coral, Salt Water Aquarium Fish, and Tropical Fish from BlueZooAquatics

I am especially fond of the first one. There are also many other better sites to buy dry goods like:
Fish & Pond Supplies | Aquarium & Garden Pond Specialists
Aquarium Pet Fish Supplies, Tank Accessories, Products & Equipment
150W Metal Halide Pendant Lights

Also powerheads are for water movement, which is super important in our tank. The ocean is never still and neither should your tank. I would aim to have the volume of your tank turned over around 40 times per hour. It also better to a few smaller powerheads than one big one so you have fewer dead spots. Any place with low flow will allow crud to settle out and be a haven for ugly algae to grow.

A skimmer isnt need on a tank that is 30 gals or less, just keep up with your regular water changes. If you do get one, get one that rated for twice your water volume. Also be wary of cheap skimmers and any skimmers sold at a lfs. I have yet to see a lfs carry a quality skimmer, just ones they can get the most mark up on. A really good brand are the reef octopus skimmers and they hydro bubble skimmers.
 
Mechanical filters are of little use in saltwater tanks because unless you clean them every 3 or 4 days, they become a nitrate factory.
 
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