If you would all have read the post and not gotten all emotional over the fact that the reason those lights were used were because I was not getting the light I needed and it was an experiment they were replaced with 400 watt halides and not used any further. But no all, I am getting is a bunch of replies from people who want to hide from reality and justify the choice they made on emotional stints, I moved the freakin thread off here just I would not have my email going off with a bunch of sniveling snot nosed brats that won't accept reality, You people bought colored automobile lights not anything refined for aquarium use, you wanted pretty blue and glowing coral as opossed to a thriving tank, now you have to justify the money you are now finding out that you wasted and should have bought a competent t-5 and halide setup. but nope were gonna team up and wine and take half a sentance and bend it around untill we program a nifty lighting storm or some other BS color temp because we spent a lot of money and cannot be happy in the fact that does not exist the led's are worthy investment at this time so we will tantalize ourselfs with all the gimmicks we paid for and to hell with the life at least we are right after all and damn you for pointing out reality. What's next ? natural sunlight sucks now that we have led's sheesh you are all laughable.