...I hate interior designers..."Do you think there is any way you could change those 20 recess lights to suspension cabling?" and of course they don't ask questions like that till the whole place is drywalled, painted, and furnished. Actually one that really pissed me off was on a 1920's restore I was doing, in the Foyer (fancy word :mrgreen: ) there was this BAD ASS antique hand made chandelier in it's original antique bronze...the interior designer came in and wanted us to take it down so the could dip it in brass :pissed: :frustrat: Forget that it would look ugly since the whole room was dark stained wood panelling and stained glass, but you know I was going to have re-wire the whole thing, plus run new wiring to that box AFTER THE ARCHED PLASTER CEILING WAS JUST COMPLETED...I definitely could do without interior designers