thanks doc, just about lost it, glad tank is coming around now i'm freakin lovin this skimmer never had a sump on a tank this is first one my other tank has 2 hang on remora pro's which is no comparison at all to this euro reef, i'm gonna tear down my 125 and put a sump in but next i'm using a octopus nw 200 there just as good but half the price at thereefstop.com and marinesolutions, which i just found out there is now new octopus extreme skimmers and premium aquatics is carrying them.